Tavoris Cloud hype train - the next real LHW champion

[Toney Loc]

Johnson is doing Dawson's heavy lifting while Dawson is fighting Froch's leftovers as Natas put it and recovering from a shoulder injury to boot.

Does that mean you're giving Johnson more credit at beating Cloud than Dawson beating Pascal?

[Iceta Lives]

Does that mean you're giving Johnson more credit at beating Cloud than Dawson beating Pascal?

Yes. I think Cloud is a better fighter than Pascal.

[ИATAS]

Pascal is trash!

case in point:

[Toney Loc]

Yes. I think Cloud is a better fighter than Pascal.

So a win over an untested prospect is a bigger accomplishment than a win over a top-rated LHW in the world?

[ИATAS]

So a win over an untested prospect is a bigger accomplishment than a win over a top-rated LHW in the world?

Cloud is a top rated LHW (he's #5).

Pascal hasn't really beaten anyone at LHW other than Diaconu.

[Iceta Lives]

Cloud is a top rated LHW (he's #5).

Pascal hasn't really beaten anyone at LHW other than Diaconu.

He has a loss on his record at 168 and isn't a natural Lightheavyweight too. Lower KO record. The whole nine.

[sicko]

I like Cloud a lot, he is a very entertaining fighter...but I don't see him beating Dawson RIGHT NOW! SOME people are hyping him because they want to see someone beat Dawson I GUESS but I don't think that guy is Cloud right now, the Johnson fight will be his first big test so we will see how he does in that fight, a dominating fight will start a buzz for him and people will start to talk about Could vs Dawson but REALISTICALLY right now Dawson is on another level and is a much more complete fighter then Cloud

[Toney Loc]

Cloud is a top rated LHW (he's #5).

Pascal hasn't really beaten anyone at LHW other than Diaconu.

Who was a titleholder.

Johnson is Cloud's first real test as far as I'm concerned.

[Spray_resistant]

Cloud is a top rated LHW (he's #5).

Pascal hasn't really beaten anyone at LHW other than Diaconu.

2 wins over a prime defending champion>>>> 2 wins over past prime 40 yr old gatekeepers.

C'mon he is only top rated by default due to lack of depth at 175.

[Toney Loc]

2 wins over a prime defending champion>>>> 2 wins over past prime 40 yr old gatekeepers.

C'mon he is only top rated by default due to lack of depth at 175.

This, too.