The facts are on the table about May vs Pac

[Spoon23]

The facts are on the table already.. Facts are accounted for. now conclusion is to be made.

Greenburg is the most neutral guy in all of these bad boys.

Hbo wants to make money. The biggest money making fight is pac vs may. So he has interest on both sides, therefore neutral.
Greenburg need both to make the biggest fight of the decade. Hbo needs both. Greenburg saying there was a negotiations means there was.

Bottomline: HBO wants money. And the biggest fight is Floyd vs Pac. How unbaised can a midleman be? He has interest in both parties. He is definitely in the middle of the talks.

the verdict has been made by the boxing community. They have seen it as clear as day, except for the *****s.. It's official floyd is a ducker and doesn't want a piece of a legitimate threat.

And Floyd wants a 2 year vacation. (he can't even let a dying boy get his wish for him to fight pac, but instead tellls the boy I need a 2 year vacation)

Floyd doesn't want to fight no more. Not pac or anyone at all.

If you *****s want to wait for him after 2 years.. I guess to each his own, but don't expect him to have a nice legacy to show for in the boxing history.

If you can't see that.. Your blind as a bat.

At least pac is fighting unlike Floyd, you guys are wondering if he will ever fight again. I say as a fan just retire for good.. Floyd is short changing the boxing community.

Bottomline: he wanted to have a vacation. He didn't want to fight. Not this year or next year. It came out from his mouth. Why can't you believe that. it's straight up from the horses mouth.

Bottomline: He is wasting his best remaining years as a fighter. The iron is hot. The boxing community wants this mega fight. But he rather have a vacation.

The man has spoken. He doesn't want a fight for 2 years.

Greenburg as a middleman tried to make it happen. But what can you do if the other party (floyd) just want to have a long vacation.

He calls himself money but he rather not fight for the biggest pay check of his life. Why? coz he rather spend some time with his family.

A Fighter during the hay days fights 10 times a year. Are we asking too much from floyd for asking him to fight twice this year?

[MindBat]

What the fans want to know are the details of the so-called proposal that was sent by Bob to the May camp or to Greenburg. We still don't know what the details of the proposal were and if it was in fact a "Done Deal".

Marley claimed that Arum had only spoken to Greenburg once, months ago. And that conversation was little more than Arum telling him his demands. Demands that Golden Boy just weren't interested in.

That's basically it. No meetings, no talks, no agreements, no contracts, no deals.

http://forum.philboxing.com/viewtopic.php?f=102&t=174594

[Spoon23]

What the fans want to know are the details of the so-called proposal that was sent by Bob to the May camp or to Greenburg. We still don't know what the details of the proposal were and if it was in fact a "Done Deal".

Marley claimed that Arum had only spoken to Greenburg once, months ago. And that conversation was little more than Arum telling him his demands. Demands that Golden Boy just weren't interested in.

That's basically it. No meetings, no talks, no agreements, no contracts, no deals.

http://forum.philboxing.com/viewtopi...f=102&t=174594

you, don't need that. We know that may doesn't want to fight for 2 years. Negotiations facts aren't important. what we do know is that Floyd doesn't care about fighting for 2 years.

That's all there is to it. you don't need the facts about negotiations. The fact that he doesn't want to fight and rather he spends time with his family. Says it all.

It is what it is. A boxer who doesn't want to fight. what more do you want to know?

He can't even give a dying kid his wish to fight.. what more to his fan base who ain't all dying lol.

Bottomline: Floyd doesn't want to fight. Not to pac or to any fighter. He Just wants a vacation with his family for 2 years. How clear is that already.. Why do you *****s still don't get it?

[Phenom]

funny thing is nobody is asking for the Margarito fight not even pacstans

but they will take it as a stay busy fight problem is Manny already had one of those this year

[MindBat]

you, don't need that. We know that may doesn't want to fight for 2 years. Negotiations facts aren't important. what we do know is that Floyd doesn't care about fighting for 2 years.

That's all there is to it. you don't need the facts about negotiations. The fact that he doesn't want to fight and rather he spends time with his family. Says it all.

It is what it is. A boxer who doesn't want to fight. what more do you want to know?

He can't even give a dying kid his wish to fight.. what more to his fan based who ain't all dying lol.

So after his team tried the best they could to get Manny in the ring with no success, he can't take a vacation?

And who's to say he won't take a few months off and come back in December or even the beginning of 2011?

[Spoon23]

funny thing is nobody is asking for the Margarito fight not even pacstans

but they will take it as a stay busy fight problem is Manny already had one of those this year

Again a ***** trying to go for the off topic. stay on course. Just stay on context. Answer these questions. This ain't about pac or margarito. It is about Floyd not fighting and his vacation for 2 years. Can't you see that? Geez..

The facts are on the table already.. Facts are accounted for. now conclusion is to be made.

Greenburg is the most neutral guy in all of these bad boys.

Hbo wants to make money. The biggest money making fight is pac vs may. So he has interest on both sides, therefore neutral.
Greenburg need both to make the biggest fight of the decade. Hbo needs both. Greenburg saying there was a negotiations means there was.

Bottomline: HBO wants money. And the biggest fight is Floyd vs Pac. How unbaised can a midleman be? He has interest in both parties. He is definitely in the middle of the talks.

the verdict has been made by the boxing community. They have seen it as clear as day, except for the *****s.. It's official floyd is a ducker and doesn't want a piece of a legitimate threat.

And Floyd wants a 2 year vacation. (he can't even let a dying boy get his wish for him to fight pac, but instead tellls the boy I need a 2 year vacation)

Floyd doesn't want to fight no more. Not pac or anyone at all.

If you *****s want to wait for him after 2 years.. I guess to each his own, but don't expect him to have a nice legacy to show for in the boxing history.

If you can't see that.. Your blind as a bat.

At least pac is fighting unlike Floyd, you guys are wondering if he will ever fight again. I say as a fan just retire for good.. Floyd is short changing the boxing community.

[MindBat]

Floyd fought Shane who had a title belt and whom Arum claimed Floyd would not fight, and who Manny refused to fight even at a 60-40 split and at 144lbs.

He can't take a short vacation and come back?

Who's to say they won't make the fight in 2011?

[Spoon23]

So after his team tried the best they could to get Manny in the ring with no success, he can't take a vacation?

And who's to say he won't take a few months off and come back in December or even the beginning of 2011?

There are other fighters that will improve his legacy. It's a shame you guys don't want his legacy to improve before he retires for good. Oh wait I think he really is retiring for good.. after 2 years he ain't in his prime anymore. Geez a fighter who doesnn't want to fight in his prime.

There are lot of fighters Floyd can fight to cement his legacy. But sad to say he just better of retiring again for 2 years. What kind of fighter is that?

If your a real fan, you would encourage floyd to fight the best out there. It doesn't have to be pac, there are others out there.

See? the fact that he isn't mentioning others means he just doesn't care. He wants to have some long down time with his fam.

He is in his prime but he rather not fight. Wow, and you guys are ok with that..

At the end of any professional life. You are judged for what you have accomplished in life.

If he wants to be the greatest ever as he says he is. Then he should fight the baddest fighters available and higher weights as well. But sad to say he rather have a go for another 2 year vacation.

[MindBat]

There are other fighters that will improve his legacy. It's a shame you guys don't want his legacy to improve before he retires for good. Oh wait I think he really is retiring for good.. after 2 years he ain't in his prime anymore. Geez a fighter who doesnn't want to fight in his prime.

There are lot of fighters Floyd can fight to cement his legacy. But sad to say he just better of retiring again for 2 years. What kind of fighter is that?

If your a real fan, you would encourage floyd to fight the best out there. It doesn't have to be pac, there are others out there.

See? the fact that he isn't mentioning others means he just doesn't care. He wants to have some long down time with his fam.

He is in his prime but he rather not fight. Wow, and you guys are ok with that..

So you THINK he's retiring for good but you're not certain of that.

What if they renegotiate in 2011, what will you say then?

[Spoon23]

[QUOTE=MindBat;8920634]Floyd fought Shane who had a title belt and whom Arum claimed Floyd would not fight, and who Manny refused to fight even at a 60-40 split and at 144lbs.

He can't take a short vacation and come back?



Who's to say they won't make the fight in 2011?

He did say it with a dying kid. And he said it again in a basketball camp he is having a vacation. What more evidence tdo you guys want. It came out from the horses mouth he wants a vacation man.

He is already almost losing his prime. If he considering fighting after 2 years.. aren't you going to be upset that you didn't see him fight the best p4p figter against him slugging it out?

Bottomline: He is wasting his best remaining years as a fighter. The iron is hot. The boxing community wants this mega fight. But he rather have a vacation.