Poor boxing knowledge...

**TyrantT316** · 07-15-2005, 06:09 PM

well it is not just ********** that had those perceptions...

**oldgringo** · 07-15-2005, 06:14 PM

I had Ouma in my top 20...actually around number 16 or something. He had already beaten Phillips x2, Candelo, Jantuah...he was looking like he had the good to take over the division. Shows you how much I know

Even though I think he'll still be on top of that division in a year or two.

**anwaryussuf81** · 07-15-2005, 06:44 PM

I'm still trying to figure out why they are charging people just to read their articles and interviews. Most of their articles and interviews aren't that good anyway. I'll pay for the video interviews though.

**ottoevans** · 07-15-2005, 06:51 PM

yeah i agree on the Ouma ranking, and Calghzge has only faced bums from what i hear. And a lot of people thought Harris was really good.

**enadeus** · 07-15-2005, 07:34 PM

Calghzge vs Lacy, winner enters top 10 p4p?

**Martin (Top Knowledge)** · 07-16-2005, 04:29 AM

Originally posted by ottoevans

yeah i agree on the Ouma ranking, and Calghzge has only faced bums from what i hear. And a lot of people thought Harris was really good.

Calzaghe has fought decent opposition for years... I don't understand why people say he only fights bums?

I guess they're just not familiar with his record. - He's beaten many many former World champions, fighters who lost to him, but then went on to be World champions.

Originally posted by deuskie

Calghzge vs Lacy, winner enters top 10 p4p?

I think if Lacy beats Calzaghe... he'll enter the P4P top 10, but if Calzaghe beats Lacy, Calzaghe still won't be anywhere near the P4P top 20.

Go figure?...

**Parodius** · 07-16-2005, 04:35 AM

Originally posted by martinwbc

I've always wondered how someone with such poor boxing knowledge and terrible judgement is able to run a website.

I'm talking about G.Leon - boxing talk...

... I don't know if any of you have had the missfortune of reading his garbage mailbag from time to time?... But he's so off the ball it's funny!

"Vivian Harris is the best light-welterweight in the WORLD!"

"Kassim Ouma P4P No.15!!!" - That's a relitivly untested fighter ranking far higher than Joe Calzaghe 39-0-0 (32KO's) Won WBO 1997 off Chris Eubank and had 17 sucessfull defences since!

"Kostya Tszyu vs Ricky Hatton is a total miss-match!!!"

Do you guy's know what I'm talking about?... LOL!...

What number you put Hatton in P4P???

**Martin (Top Knowledge)** · 07-16-2005, 04:43 AM

Well according to some people, if you beat the man you become the man. (which would have put Ricky Hatton at P4P No.2 in those people's eyes, the same way they had Tarver P4P No.2 after he beat RJJ).

I get frustrated with this whole P4P business because people base P4P lists on so many different things these days.

OK... I'll do a P4P list on exactly WHO I think will WIN if WEIGHT wasn't a factor RIGHT NOW!!!... NOT what they have acheived in their career!

THIS IS SURPOSED TO BE WHAT P4P IS ALL ABOUT!!!

For example there's no way in the World a 40yr old Hopkins would be able to keep a 26yr old Pacquiao off him at the same weight!... Hence the meaning of P4P!...

1. Barrera - He's got it all, and has proved it against the elite!

2. Wright - I've said for a long time this boy can out-box anyone! This is nothing to do with his recent victory!

3. Morales - Has mixed in the top class forever, and is still on top of his game!

4. Hatton - I don't think anyone in the World will be able to stop Hatton closing the distance with educated pressure.

5. Pacquiao - He maybe a little one dimensional, but "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"... He's showed his effectiveness against the best!

6. Mayweather - He maybe a little feather fisted, but he's got the skills to move and out-box almost all!

7. Tsyzu - With THAT MUCH POWER IN EITHER HAND! You can't dissmiss this guy, Not only that, he's an excellent boxer to boot!!!

8. Calzaghe - This isn't because I come from the UK, but He's 39-0 31ko's and has ruled the division since 1997! He looks to take your head off!

9. Hopkins - below Calzaghe because I think Calzaghe would beat him, but this is a sly old fox who will run and hit!

10. Cotto - Call me crazy but this guy is SOOOO STRONG and hit's like a kick for a mule! He's one of the best 140lbr's and the future of boxing!

This is my P4P list!... I know it's very different from the usual **** you see. But I think P4P is surposed to be about "THEE BEST FIGHTER RIGHT NOW IF WEIGHT WASN'T A FACTOR"... Well this is what I think.

There's no marketing hype or what they've done in their careers before hand in there... just total honesty!

**Super Cruiserweight** · 07-16-2005, 04:52 AM

Cal***gi doesnt deserve to be p4p ranked until he beats a young current champion like Lacy. who has beaten apart from a washed up eubanks ? if eubanks was in his prime he woulda ****d Cal***gi. Reid and the woodhall were euro standard cos they only beat Sugar Boy malinga for there world title when malinga was about 50 yrs old !! Nigel Benn woulda ****d Ried and that woodhall guy, and that WBC 168 belt was changin hands all the time after Benn lost it.only Benn could keep hold of it. Brewer was washed up and had many losses by the time he fought Cal***gi. Ill give himcredit for gettin off the floor to stop Mitchell but the fact remains CAL***GI HAS NEVER BEATEN A WORLD CHAMPION ! HES BETEAN EITHER WASHED UP FIGHTERS OR EURO BUMS. HES NEVER BEATEN A CURRENT WORLD CHAMPION OR ANYONE IN THEIR PRIME

Poor boxing knowledge...