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  • Could Pavlik Hang With Any Of These MiddleWeight Greats?

    Jake Lamotta
    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Carlos Monzon
    Marvelous Marvin Hagler
    Bernard Hopkins

    I really think Pavlik was one of the worst middle weight champs ever but im open to debate.
    Last edited by Canelo Phresh; 07-27-2010, 02:26 AM. Reason: i meant the other sugar ray

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    Leonard might play it safe for a lil while but I think he may beat Kelly up..Marvelous breaks him down and stops him...well we saw what Bernard did...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by -EX- View Post
      Leonard might play it safe for a lil while but I think he may beat Kelly up..Marvelous breaks him down and stops him...well we saw what Bernard did...
      sorry man i meant robinson. leonard was atg welterweight but not middle weight in my opinion.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mannie Phresh View Post
        sorry man i meant robinson. leonard was atg welterweight but not middle weight in my opinion.
        At 160 SRL still gets him though.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by AKATheMack View Post
          At 160 SRL still gets him though.
          yeah movement and speed will do that to fighting mummy lol.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mannie Phresh View Post
            yeah movement and speed will do that to fighting mummy lol.
            If you stand right in front of him he'll make you pay though. Hed be hell to fight in a hallway.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by AKATheMack View Post
              If you stand right in front of him he'll make you pay though. Hed be hell to fight in a hallway.
              he was a legendary hall monitor

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              • #8
                I think Pavlik loses to any elite Middleweight, The reason? He's one dimensional and all of those Middleweights you mentioned were great fighters who could fight in several different styles. Bernard Hopkins for example, He can box, slug, counter punch, or attack you. Pavlik fights in one style and this only gets you so far, All truly great fighters have versatility and the ability to adapt and adjust to different opponents.
                Last edited by JK1700; 07-27-2010, 03:09 AM.

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                • #9
                  I agree 100% with the TS....Pavlik has to be the worst MW champion in history.....ALL those legendary MWs win one sided fights against him.....he is no where near the caliber of those GREAT MWs mentioned!!!
                  Last edited by Mr. Philadel; 07-27-2010, 03:52 AM.

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                  • #10
                    It still bugs me how Bernard couldnt beat Jermain Taylor, Maybe you can say it was a close win for him but Hopkins beat everyone easily in his MW reign. But he didnt seem to be able to figure out Taylor and then Taylor goes and loses to Pavlik twice. And then Bernard goes and schools Pavlik, About 4 years after he lost to Taylor. Styles make fights and I guess some guys just have your number, And Pavlik had Jermain's number. No doubt.

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