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  • NesNY
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    #21
    nobody will know until he fights elite competition in their prime (which he's probably too old for at this point. Only Manny is left).
    Southpaws have been the ones who have given him some trouble (outside of castillo). Zab landed great body shots and left straights to his face. Corley bobbled him worse than Mosley.

    Floyd's a great fighter...top notch skill. But a prime (97-99) ODLH beats him, considering the rounds he did win in their fight in 07. Prime Sweet Pea beats him, too. Some people think prime Vernon Forrest beats him.

    Like I said...Floyd's a superb boxer. But he doesn't have a victory over an ELITE boxer (Hall of famer, or recent ATG candidate) in their prime.

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    • elfag
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      #22
      I think he CAN be outboxed, it just takes the right kind of fighter to do it and there isnt that type out there today.

      In the Judah fight, what we saw was Zab beating him to the punch with the jab on the outside, fighting a cautious early fight and Floyd being content to staying on the outside. Roger saw this and saw he lost a few rounds and told him Zab dont want to fight, basically saying back him up and create countering opportunities which the minute Floyd did that the fight was his. But what if it was someone who was larger with a better inside game?

      Floyd did loose rounds to oscar's jab. I think someone like Forrest or Wright or younger DLH are the right type to beat him rather than someone with a high activity level because Floyd has a way of getting people to drop their work rate and be cautious of his counters.

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      • SkillspayBills
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        #23
        Risk averse. Killer instinct.

        He could end fights but doesn't because it just isn't in him anymore to put all his eggs in the basket to end a fight.

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        • jayblack
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          #24
          Originally posted by Malius
          I totally agree, been saying that alot, even watch May VS Mosley first two round when mosley went low he scored easy.
          Just about all of Mayweather's fights are competitive for the first couple of rounds. But after he studies and figures you out, it's over. It really doesn't matter if you're a southpaw, or if you attack the body hard.
          I used to think that someone with a good jab will really give Floyd problems. And If I saw something that made me think that, I'm sure every trainer and boxer he's faced saw that and much more that they thought they could exploit. But there is a reason why no one pounds his body or sticks with the jab the entire fight.

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          • Cuauhtémoc1520
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            #25
            Originally posted by El Protagonista
            Just to add on Cuauh's post, I think Mayweather's power is very underrated. It's not that he doesn't have pop, it's just that he's gotten into the habit of throwing single shots instead of putting together combos like he used to. The kid has pop. He had Mosley backing up. He's not Julian Jackson by any means, but I don't think he's feather fisted at all.

            Again before people start in with the "He couldn't KO JMM" argument, Mayweather didn't and really hasn't put his punches together since being at welterweight. I think he's more careful to be hit at this weight because he's fighting bigger stronger guys, and he's turned into the ultimate counter-puncher like Cuauh pointed out. The guy is VERY careful about what he throws, so he sacrifices workrate for accuracy, which IMO is a better skill.

            I don't see any flaws in his game. The guys skills are top notch. He might not be the most exciting guy there is, but that's not a weakness. That's an opinion.
            Perfect analysis, that's exactly why we don't see him throw a ton of punches. He actually was much more aggressive vs JMM because he wasn't threatened with his power. Against a guy like DLH, we saw him fight much more careful because he understood that if he was to get caught with that left hook, it could mean the fight.

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            • tredh
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              #26
              IMO PBF takes a shot to the body better than he takes a shot to the chin. Actually Zab was faster in that fight but once PBF switched to the high guard instead of having his hands lower and trying to roll Zab's punches PBF actually outboxed Judah besides walking him down. I really don't see weaknesses in PBF game strength was his problem against Castillo and if you really think about it PBF has not gone into another fight where a fighter was that much stronger than him. PBF has not been bullied in a fight since the first Castillo fight Hatton thought he could and we all saw what happened.

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              • Boxin'
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                #27
                Originally posted by Team Money May
                Mayweather destroyed all the southpaws.

                If there is one weakness of Mayweather it would have to be his speed.
                Is speed a weakness?

                i thought it was an advantage lol

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                • Travdog
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by El Protagonista
                  Just to add on Cuauh's post, I think Mayweather's power is very underrated. It's not that he doesn't have pop, it's just that he's gotten into the habit of throwing single shots instead of putting together combos like he used to. The kid has pop. He had Mosley backing up. He's not Julian Jackson by any means, but I don't think he's feather fisted at all.

                  Again before people start in with the "He couldn't KO JMM" argument, Mayweather didn't and really hasn't put his punches together since being at welterweight. I think he's more careful to be hit at this weight because he's fighting bigger stronger guys, and he's turned into the ultimate counter-puncher like Cuauh pointed out. The guy is VERY careful about what he throws, so he sacrifices workrate for accuracy, which IMO is a better skill.

                  I don't see any flaws in his game. The guys skills are top notch. He might not be the most exciting guy there is, but that's not a weakness. That's an opinion.
                  On the money.....Green K

                  A Guy that's naturally bigger, with longer arm length, with pop, with a big jab that's a southpaw would give him trouble. But that type of figher does not exist and will give anyone in history a tough time.

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                  • MindBat
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Di Bushbaby
                    I have a feeling that a really good body puncher can be horrible for Floyd!!
                    You might want to let him tell you himself how he deals with body punching. Not that he can't be hit to the body, but how he can counter body punchers...



                    Originally posted by .-|Akrobatic|-.
                    southpaws...
                    Southpaws would be his weakness if he had lost to southpaws. They may make him work more and make the fight more interesting.


                    Originally posted by elfag
                    I think he CAN be outboxed, it just takes the right kind of fighter to do it and there isnt that type out there today.

                    In the Judah fight, what we saw was Zab beating him to the punch with the jab on the outside, fighting a cautious early fight and Floyd being content to staying on the outside. Roger saw this and saw he lost a few rounds and told him Zab dont want to fight, basically saying back him up and create countering opportunities which the minute Floyd did that the fight was his. But what if it was someone who was larger with a better inside game?

                    Floyd did loose rounds to oscar's jab. I think someone like Forrest or Wright or younger DLH are the right type to beat him rather than someone with a high activity level because Floyd has a way of getting people to drop their work rate and be cautious of his counters.
                    That's a fair take on it. His timing and ability to adjust and adapt to styles is what has won him fights. More importantly, he doesn't take anyone for granted.

                    So does he have any weaknesses? For the time being his opponents haven't been able to capitalize on them long enough to claim victory. He is human, after all.

                    This might come across as a 'nuthugger' post to some. I'm merely expressing my opinion based on my observations thus far.
                    Last edited by MindBat; 07-26-2010, 09:09 AM.

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                    • Roy Keane
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                      #30
                      how can his punch output be a weakness ?? he has won every fight that way and chooses to do it so its not a weakness if your landing over 50% of your shots is it ! So someone throwing over a 1000 punches and landing 12% is not a weakness but someone throwing 400-500 and landing 50+% is ? GTFO

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