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  • The Big Dunn
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    #11
    Originally posted by jaestix1
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    -defending the jab
    -lack of power
    -extremely low punch output

    add on
    Size and speed together. The fights he looked the worst in Castillo 1 (hand broken). Zab, ODH, the fighters were naturally larger and had some decent hand speed, exceptional in zab's case.

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    • SplitSecond
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      #12
      Originally posted by Mannie Phresh
      yeah did u see what corley and judah did him? gave him 3 competitive rounds
      so what do you think his weaknesses are?
      or does he not have any?

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      • Ido
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        #13
        Low work rate.

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        • Bushbaby
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          #14
          Originally posted by jaestix1
          the thing about going to the body on floyd is that you cannot get discouraged and you have to have one HELL OF A CHIN because when you do.....best believe floyd going counter the **** outta you with uppercuts or something extremely accurate and short.
          I agree,I think that's why he has been sooo dominant!!He dicourages fighters!!Someone taller with good reach & mean body punching who is gonna keep throwing will be a long night for Floyd!!

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          • Cuauhtémoc1520
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            #15
            Originally posted by jaestix1
            Serious thread....no flaming

            -defending the jab
            -lack of power
            -extremely low punch output

            add on
            I would say you are wrong on all of these.

            - He can defend the jab or counter the jab extremely well, it's just that some great fighters (DLH) did have success jabbing on him but they have success jabbing on everyone. Once he get's the rhythm of the jab, he can counter it to perfection the way he did vs Mosley

            - Lack of power maybe at the WW division. Early on in his career he was knocking people out.

            - He does throw limited punches but that's also because he is a counter puncher. I wouldn't say that's a weakness because doing something different would sort of go against his style of fighting.

            I don't see many weaknesses in Mayweather to be honest with you. Maybe you could say chin or heart but we have never seen him pushed to the limit because he almost never gets hit or hurt.

            I don't like Mayweather the man but the Mayweather the fighter is GREAT and I don't throw that word around too often.

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            • elfag
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              #16
              Originally posted by Big Dunn
              Size and speed together. The fights he looked the worst in Castillo 1 (hand broken). Zab, ODH, the fighters were naturally larger and had some decent hand speed, exceptional in zab's case.
              actually zab weighed more than him on fight night.


              Castillo had 10 pounds on him at fight night.

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              • elfag
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                #17
                Id say his biggest fault is not putting together combinations and not being offensive enough. Though he usually wins there are fights where he could have gotten the KO if he really bothered to press it a bit more like zab and jmm.

                I really enjoyed the mosley fight though seeing him back up mosley. He also put together a lot of 1-2's, not 4 or 5 punch combos but he did set up the right hand with the jab alot which was nice to see.

                His overall punch output isnt that low. He usually is around 500 or so thrown which isnt as bad as people think and it hasnt ever really caused him to loose rounds due to his opponents missing so many and him being so accurate. He isnt like Hopkins who has had a problem loosing rounds that he could have won if he just would have thrown more.


                We havent seen him face a high volume puncher though in a while, someone like an Ouma type that would be interesting. Of course the Pac fight would be just that and then some which is why everyone wants to see it.

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                • bojangles1987
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502
                  I would say you are wrong on all of these.

                  - He can defend the jab or counter the jab extremely well, it's just that some great fighters (DLH) did have success jabbing on him but they have success jabbing on everyone. Once he get's the rhythm of the jab, he can counter it to perfection the way he did vs Mosley

                  - Lack of power maybe at the WW division. Early on in his career he was knocking people out.

                  - He does throw limited punches but that's also because he is a counter puncher. I wouldn't say that's a weakness because doing something different would sort of go against his style of fighting.

                  I don't see many weaknesses in Mayweather to be honest with you. Maybe you could say chin or heart but we have never seen him pushed to the limit because he almost never gets hit or hurt.

                  I don't like Mayweather the man but the Mayweather the fighter is GREAT and I don't throw that word around too often.
                  I agree about the jab. Maybe against someone much bigger a great jab would really bother him, but just having a jab isn't enough, as he proved against Oscar.

                  The limited punch output would hurt him against Pacquiao or Paul Williams. The whole point of counter punching is to discourage the other fighter, and if you are only landing one counter punch and then not following that up against those two you are not going to discourage them.

                  I'm pretty sure the TS means right now, and power is a weakness for Mayweather right now. It doesn't really matter that much knockouts aren't his game but it's still a point to bring up, he doesn't have much power.

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                  • El Protagonista
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502
                    I would say you are wrong on all of these.

                    - He can defend the jab or counter the jab extremely well, it's just that some great fighters (DLH) did have success jabbing on him but they have success jabbing on everyone. Once he get's the rhythm of the jab, he can counter it to perfection the way he did vs Mosley

                    - Lack of power maybe at the WW division. Early on in his career he was knocking people out.

                    - He does throw limited punches but that's also because he is a counter puncher. I wouldn't say that's a weakness because doing something different would sort of go against his style of fighting.

                    I don't see many weaknesses in Mayweather to be honest with you. Maybe you could say chin or heart but we have never seen him pushed to the limit because he almost never gets hit or hurt.

                    I don't like Mayweather the man but the Mayweather the fighter is GREAT and I don't throw that word around too often.
                    Just to add on Cuauh's post, I think Mayweather's power is very underrated. It's not that he doesn't have pop, it's just that he's gotten into the habit of throwing single shots instead of putting together combos like he used to. The kid has pop. He had Mosley backing up. He's not Julian Jackson by any means, but I don't think he's feather fisted at all.

                    Again before people start in with the "He couldn't KO JMM" argument, Mayweather didn't and really hasn't put his punches together since being at welterweight. I think he's more careful to be hit at this weight because he's fighting bigger stronger guys, and he's turned into the ultimate counter-puncher like Cuauh pointed out. The guy is VERY careful about what he throws, so he sacrifices workrate for accuracy, which IMO is a better skill.

                    I don't see any flaws in his game. The guys skills are top notch. He might not be the most exciting guy there is, but that's not a weakness. That's an opinion.
                    Last edited by El Protagonista; 07-26-2010, 08:15 AM.

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                    • The Comedian
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                      #20
                      Contrary to popular believe Floyd punch output isnt below normal or that low. Its his combinations punches that are low. He throws two or one punches at a time but he repetitively does, so it makes up for long combinations.

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