Is Wladamir Klitschko a ATG Heavyweight?

[Southpaw Great]

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[BostonGuy]

I voted "Yes."...

[BrooklynBomber]

I will vote when he retires.

[Cherry Picker]

I voted yes

[kenso]

im a big wladimir fan man, but from an unbias standpoint - it is true he doesn't have any big names (outside of maybe haye) to put on his resume, but man, he is dominating so hard for several years now. i mean eventually you got to give him the credit for the sheer level of domination he has been displaying. he has barely dropped a round in the past several years, and he keeps dominating and clearing out the top ranked contenders.

he has had a lot of shaky moments in his career, but unlike alot of fighters who get exposed - he came back better than ever. once tyson got beat down it was totally down hill from there, same with jones, etc... obviously there are fighters who have taken beatings to still go on with great careers, im just saying that wlad is dominating just as hard as any of the other guys seemingly would have.

[fugu]

Define ATG.
Top100 p4p? Top10 HW? Top20?

[cupocity303]

Define ATG.
Top100 p4p? Top10 HW? Top20?

He did define it.

ATG Heavyweight, not P4P ATG regardless of weight classes.


And yes in a heavyweight sense, he is a Top 10 ATG. Not better historically than Ali, Louis, Holmes, Frazier, Foreman, Lewis and a couple others but right there at the bottom 10. He is at a point where you can't keep putting all these past heavyweight champs ahead of him. The ones I mentioned yes, but he is starting to surpass the others.

[fugu]

He did define it.

ATG Heavyweight, not P4P ATG regardless of weight classes.

Is that a definition? ATG could refer to any topX number couldn't it? Or is it ATG hw = top10?

[cupocity303]

Is that a definition? ATG could refer to any topX number couldn't it? Or is it ATG hw = top10?

Generally if you're just asking about one weight class, ATG means the top 10.

Otherwise the term losses it's meaning. There is no 66th All-time great heavyweight. At that point you're just a very good fighter but not great.

[Heru]

As of right now (no additional losses or wins), Wladimir might be able to squeeze in as a Top 20 ATG at Heavyweight.