Im starting to believe Manny is hiding something..

[DondiNeverLeft]

So you just started to believe or did this happen the second after Floyd told you to start believing?

I don't know Floyd personally so he told me nothing, but if your biggest defense is when I started to believe this then I feel good about my theory.

[mathed]

Hanging by a thread? Really? He's probably getting the biggest check of his career in a PPV bout against a superstar. Seems as if his career is doing pretty great.

Compared to where he was a few years ago, I beg to differ. From being the most avoided man in boxing to not even being allowed to box in the US and needing to fight a Top Rank boxer in order to get a payday, seems like a step back to me. My point is that Arum knew he had Margs in a position to take advantage of him and he knew that Margs would accept nearly any and all demands made by Pac's people at this point......he has NO other big fight options.

[tesla_power]

Your opinion is fine with me.
And if it helps you sleep better...Yes I have been viewing him fishy for a while now.
ANY BOXER THAT HAD 90% of his fights in his country (Philippines) and his first 35 or so fights in HIS COUNTRY had a record of 35 wins 2 losses(by KO early)and one draw. Then in his next 10 fights loses again and gets another draw. Then after 40 something fights he starts to peak as he gains weight...CMON!!!! wake up and understand this is not normal....He may be cleaner than you underwear but it looks fishy.

Up until the Sr accusation, honestly never crossed my mind. If it was proven he uses them, then I'll **** on him. If not, then he is just a phenomenal fighter. And I don't lose sleep over anything boxing. Lolz. I know my priorities and boxing is just entertainment for me since I'm no prizefighter.

[KickAzz]

Imagine that...A JMW "champion" being called out by Junior Middleweights!! So without saying as much, you are acknowledging that it is a BS "championship" title...LOL!!!!

I'll say it straight up and I won't mince my words: margarito and pacquiao have done absolutely nothing in the jr MW division that would make this fight qualify as a title fight.

clear enough?

[Megamasterking]

Floyd is hiding...

Im starting to believe Manny is hiding something...You ask why?
I really dont see why he is asking fighters to come in at a catchweight and most of us cant really understand it.
Pac asks Cotto to come in at 145 for a 147 lb belt then asks Margarito to come in at 150 for a 154 lb belt.
Its starting to look like he is trying to justify his wins or KO's of "bigger guys".
Maybe it wont look so fishy to fans if he KO's a bigger guy if he makes them fight at a catch weight hmmmm?
I have heard many guys in here Supposedly hardcore fans say, "Pac can beat Margarito at 154 no problem and Cotto at 147 or 154 no problem. Then Why the catchweights?
Im starting to think its a smoke screen, becuase if he KO's these guys at their wieght then he will look even more of a freak then he already looks to most. PED?

On another note how the hell does Arum defend not fighting PW BRADLEY AND ALEXANDER "because their names are not big enough to draw money" but its OK to fight Clottey and Margarito? WTF

Weak... Floyd didn't fought Cotto, Manny fought Cotto and won, only one boxer is hiding right now and it's Floyd hiding from Manny...

[nitrokid]

If he is the best p4p fighter and wants to prove it, why not fight the fighters at their proper weight. It seems misleading to say you beat someone at 154 lbs when you want him to fight 4 pounds under the real limit.

[Radke]

Manny is a small welterweight. And this is the first time hes goin to fight at Jr. Middleweight, thats the reason why they want (if its true) this fight to be at 150. Oh well i also dont like the idea of Manny fighting for a vacant JMW belt at 150,but i just dont get why you haters can connect this **** to PEDs when theres an obvious reason why they are trying to demand this thing. Is that hard to understand?

[ADP02]

I don't know Floyd personally so he told me nothing, but if your biggest defense is when I started to believe this then I feel good about my theory.

I meant that ONLY when Floyd brought this PED into the equation that you even thought of Manny taking it .... and now you are taking Floyd's comments and making your mind spin up this theory of yours.

For his last 4 fights:
1) Oscar: Manny had to go up for is FIRST fight at 147 .... he was one fight away from fighting his 130 fight. Most had Oscar winning this one.... Oscar stated before and after that he had a great training camp but after stated Manny won it because he was the better man ..... So Oscar going down was said to be fair since Manny came up.

Hatton: Manny had to come down to fight him ....

Cotto: Manny's last fight was at 140 and so Manny had to come back up to fight a 147 again. So he asked Cotto if he can come down to 145 while Manny needs to come back up again for ONLY his second fight at WW. This was only 1lb lower than Cotto's previous fight. Therefore, negligible.

Clottey: No catch-weight .... by now Manny and company feel a bit better that they can fight at WW and I'm sure after the fight their confidence grew.


Also, your theory is flawed as you pointed out that Manny has been KOing WWs ...... but he has yet to KO anyone at 147 the way he put Hatton away at 140..... Manny won at 147 with speed more than power.

None of his last 4 fights would have me conclude your theory. It would be more obvious that Manny's team wasn't sure about being able to fight at WW and had asked for the catch-weight than him taking PEDs ..... especially when there has been NO EVIDENCE that he is on PEDs. So you didn't just start thinking about PEDs .....

you thought about it back then like I said but now are trying to add your theory to try to make yourself believe and others that he must be taking PEDs.

[DondiNeverLeft]

I meant that ONLY when Floyd brought this PED into the equation that you even thought of Manny taking it .... and now you are taking Floyd's comments and making your mind spin up this theory of yours.

For his last 4 fights:
1) Oscar: Manny had to go up for is FIRST fight at 147 .... he was one fight away from fighting his 130 fight. Most had Oscar winning this one.... Oscar stated before and after that he had a great training camp but after stated Manny won it because he was the better man ..... So Oscar going down was said to be fair since Manny came up.

Hatton: Manny had to come down to fight him ....

Cotto: Manny's last fight was at 140 and so Manny had to come back up to fight a 147 again. So he asked Cotto if he can come down to 145 while Manny needs to come back up again for ONLY his second fight at WW. This was only 1lb lower than Cotto's previous fight. Therefore, negligible.

Clottey: No catch-weight .... by now Manny and company feel a bit better that they can fight at WW and I'm sure after the fight their confidence grew.


Also, your theory is flawed as you pointed out that Manny has been KOing WWs ...... but he has yet to KO anyone at 147 the way he put Hatton away at 140..... Manny won at 147 with speed more than power.

None of his last 4 fights would have me conclude your theory. It would be more obvious that Manny's team wasn't sure about being able to fight at WW and had asked for the catch-weight than him taking PEDs ..... especially when there has been NO EVIDENCE that he is on PEDs. So you didn't just start thinking about PEDs .....

you thought about it back then like I said but now are trying to add your theory to try to make yourself believe and others that he must be taking PEDs.

A theory is called a theory for a reason...look it up as far as beating someone with speed. You might want to look up Ben Johnson.
PED stands for performance enhancing drug not Power Enhancing Drug...It will make you faster. So get your facts straight Remember I have a belief a theory..whether its true or not can be debatable but PEDS can make you stronger, faster, give you stamina and much more THATS TRUE.

[ADP02]

A theory is called a theory for a reason...look it up as far as beating someone with speed. You might want to look up Ben Johnson.
PED stands for performance enhancing drug not Power Enhancing Drug...It will make you faster. So get your facts straight Remember I have a belief a theory..whether its true or not can be debatable but PEDS can make you stronger, faster, give you stamina and much more THATS TRUE.

I didn't look it up as I know the story behind Ben Johnson .... used PEDs to gain leg power and so that he can recuperate faster from his workouts and so forth. With Ben he actually tested positive.

You stated the following not me:

"if he KO's a bigger guy" ..... "if he KO's these guys at their wieght then he will look even more of a freak then he already looks to most. PED?"

I said, Manny never KOed anyone at WW.

Manny has always shown he was quick ..... just look at his fights in the lower divisions. People think that only after he moved up in weight divisions did he start taking PEDs...... I'm not afraid of being wrong but you nor Floyd have any proof. That's where your theory becomes just speculation!