Stop already comparing Manny to Armstrong

[Tiozzo]

Pacquiao >>>Henry Armstrong all the way

its not even close!

you don't even know Armstrong and what he has achieved
I bet you have never seen him fight on tape

Armstrong never starved his opponents

[Tiozzo]

Never never never heard a more pathetic saying on these boards. Get out of here, NOW!

explain yourself or GTFO

[Walterson]

we can also see your great objectivity looking at your nickname

anyway

don't forget one thing, there was no junior and super divisions in Armstrong's time

Armstrong was champion at 126, 135, 147, and should have been champion at 160, but was robbed

between those 4 divisions, there are today 126, 130, 135, 140, 147, 154, 160.

7 divisions in total

Isn't Pacquiao a 7 division champion ? So to me, Pacquiao hasn't surpassed Armstrong yet, and he doesn't help his case neither with his catch-weight Bull**** demands.

wow, that was some serious ownage - i felt that from right over here in LDN

[RimmyDelicious]

Henry fought at numerous catchweights throughout his career. He defended his Welterweight title at contracted limits of 140 many times, to name just one of the many catchweight title fights Henry contested.

Oscar De La Hoya moved down to 147 to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. In fact, he fought Steve Forbes at 150 to prepare for the Floyd rematch, and to prepare his body for the shift down in weight. Floyd "retired" for a year and a half, and Manny stepped in, moved up 13 pounds and battered the Golden Boy. Revisionists make it out that Manny drained Oscar, when it was Floyd who had Oscar moving down in weight.

[Tiozzo]

Henry fought at numerous catchweights throughout his career. He defended his Welterweight title at contracted limits of 140 many times, to name just one of the many catchweight title fights Henry contested.

Oscar De La Hoya moved down to 147 to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. In fact, he fought Steve Forbes at 150 to prepare for the Floyd rematch, and to prepare his body for the shift down in weight. Floyd "retired" for a year and a half, and Manny stepped in, moved up 13 pounds and battered the Golden Boy. Revisionists make it out that Manny drained Oscar, when it was Floyd who had Oscar moving down in weight.

DLH didn't fight Floyd for a second time in the end, so he didn't have to respect demands that were on the contract for Floyd II when he was now fighting Manny, right ?

and I just looked up the WW title fights Armstrong has had
you'll have to name the fights that happened at a catch-weight, because there's no indication there that there were catch-weights, and many of those fights happened at the full division limit with his opponents coming in near 147

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...boxer&pageID=1

provide evidence please
or else it didn't happen

[Pacdbest]

why fight at catch-weight then if Manny is so great in the higher divisions ?
why does he need the catch-weights ?
answer this if you can

He wants a fair fight. If they cant make catchweight then they are free to move on and fight fighters their size. Pac always the smaller guy coming in since he moves up to featherweight. Pac's the one catching these guys at the higher weights.

If they dnt like catch weight then just fight at 147 or 140. Pac can easily make those weight. They just want for 150-154 title so they can create a buzz for the Promotion.

But i believe this is only a side show. Floyd will agree at the last minute.

[treason1]

Pacquiao >>>Henry Armstrong all the way

its not even close!

thats what im saying !!!!! lmao at the thought of hery being anywhere as good as the warrior

[RimmyDelicious]

DLH didn't fight Floyd for a second time in the end, so he didn't have to respect demands that were on the contract for Floyd II when he was now fighting Manny, right ?

and I just looked up the WW title fights Armstrong has had
you'll have to name the fights that happened at a catch-weight, because there's no indication there that there were catch-weights, and many of those fights happened at the full division limit with his opponents coming in near 147

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...boxer&pageID=1

provide evidence please
or else it didn't happen

Lew Jenkins, contested at 140 for the welterweight crown for starters.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100711155009AAgUN14

It's on the front page of his Boxrec stats as well.

If you need more "proof" then that, the fact that both men weighed just a shade under 140 for the welterweight, I will dig for more proof. However, I think I've already proven conclusively that Hank fought title fights at catchweights.

[Pacdbest]

we can also see your great objectivity looking at your nickname

anyway

don't forget one thing, there was no junior and super divisions in Armstrong's time

Armstrong was champion at 126, 135, 147, and should have been champion at 160, but was robbed

between those 4 divisions, there are today 126, 130, 135, 140, 147, 154, 160.

7 divisions in total

Isn't Pacquiao a 7 division champion ? So to me, Pacquiao hasn't surpassed Armstrong yet, and he doesn't help his case neither with his catch-weight Bull**** demands.

Pac - from 112-147

Armstrong from 126-147

Pac conquered more division.

[Tiozzo]

He wants a fair fight. If they cant make catchweight then they are free to move on and fight fighters their size. Pac always the smaller guy coming in since he moves up to featherweight. Pac's the one catching these guys at the higher weights.

If they dnt like catch weight then just fight at 147 or 140. Pac can easily make those weight. They just want for 150-154 title so they can create a buzz for the Promotion.

But i believe this is only a side show. Floyd will agree at the last minute.

fair ? how is it fair to be fighting at a cut weight in your own natural division ? how is it fair for Cotto to cut 2 extra pounds to make 145 when he has the right to be fighting at 147 lbs to defend his title ?

the fighters accept those catch-weight because they know Pacquiao is a big star and they can make the most money against him