Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Margarito: Manny To Demand 150-Pound Weight

[cnote111]

Clottey wasn't big numbers either but the fight was made. Bottom line, Pacquiao makes the decision, NOT Arum.

You just reaffirmed my point... Clottey is/was Top Rank -- Arum is the Box itself!!!

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You just reaffirmed my point... Clottey is/was Top Rank -- Arum is the Box itself!!!

Exactly. Manny Pacquiao is perfectly content to do whatever Bob wants. And that is why HE, not Bob, ultimately deserves blame.

[cnote111]

Exactly. Manny Pacquiao is perfectly content to do whatever Bob wants. And that is why HE, not Bob, ultimately deserves blame.

Dude now your twisting the point...Very crafty indeed, but it did not slip past me...


I originally stated that Arum is/was calling the shots on pretty much everything, i also faulted Pac for letting Bob make those decisions. I also stated that PAC is un-wisely trusting Arum for making said decisions, but none the less Bob is making the decisions and that is who's to blame for the Margarito matchup..

(Feel free to go back to my original post in this thread)

PAC trusting/following/or adhering to Bob's wishes is a whole nother thread in itself, and i also stated this point before i was ignorantly attacked and tagged as being a ******* by HOMEY SKILLS...

I do love pac as a fighter and what he has accomplished, but i'm not delusional...

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Dude now your twisting the point...Very crafty indeed, but it did not slip past me...


I originally stated that Arum is/was calling the shots on pretty much everything, i also faulted Pac for letting Bob make those decisions. I also stated that PAC is un-wisely trusting Arum for making said decisions, but none the less Bob is making the decisions and that is who's to blame for the Margarito matchup..

(Feel free to go back to my original post in this thread)

PAC trusting/following/or adhering to Bob's wishes is a whole nother thread in itself, and i also stated this point before i was ignorantly attacked and tagged as being a ******* by HOMEY SKILLS...

I do love pac as a fighter and what he has accomplished, but i'm not delusional...

Dude...BOB ARUM WORKS FOR MANNY PACQUIAO. Therefore...MANNY PACQUIAO CALLS THE SHOTS.

If Manny Pacquiao wanted to fight Paul Williams and told Bob, "Make that fight happen" then that's what Bob has to do. END OF STORY.

[cnote111]

Dude...BOB ARUM WORKS FOR MANNY PACQUIAO. Therefore...MANNY PACQUIAO CALLS THE SHOTS.

If Manny Pacquiao wanted to fight Paul Williams and told Bob, "Make that fight happen" then that's what Bob has to do. END OF STORY.

Your argument is going backwards now.... You've already said this and I already refuted it... Then the argument took on additional forms with additional points, which then you ultimately faulted PAC for following Arums decisions (your previous post)... Which means Arum is making the decisions...Its not right, but its true...

I'm sorry man, you lost this one... Good Game (extends hand)

SHAKE???

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Your argument is going backwards now.... You've already said this and I already refuted it... Then the argument took on additional forms with additional points, which then you ultimately faulted PAC for following Arums decisions (your previous post)... Which means Arum is making the decisions...Its not right, but its true...

I'm sorry man, you lost this one... Good Game (extends hand)

SHAKE???

You never refuted squat, what world do you live in?

All this crap can be whittled down to one thing:

DOES BOB ARUM WORK FOR MANNY PACQUIAO OR NO?

Shake THAT.

[cnote111]

You never refuted squat, what world do you live in?

All this crap can be whittled down to one thing:

DOES BOB ARUM WORK FOR MANNY PACQUIAO OR NO?

Shake THAT.

Don't get bent out of shape - Thats not your style..

You are stating what a lot of politicians call Half-Truths...

Yes, Bob Arum on Paper works for PAC - What is his job???

Making and Creating the best deals possble.... What you keep forgetting, that i have mentioned multiple times is the Bob is one corrupt SOB, and he has not been doing his job in the best interest of PAC. Bob has been working for himself using PAC as a tool for his own gain... Yes i admit Pac is to blame for trustin Bob, but that is a seperate subject... Bob still created and masterminded this whole margarito debacle...

END GAME!

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We need to stop focusing on Pac - This is Bob Arums doing... Catchweights, Manny's opponents, all the BS stipulations back and forth is ALL Bob Arum... I haven't heard anything from Pac's mouth... Until i do, i am putting all the blame on Arum - period

Secondly - Why in the **** aren't the sanctioning bodies of these belts pushing back against this catchweight BS, and why aren't this belt industries pushing back on fighters who deserve it being placed as the mandatory...ANSWER: Money and Bob Arum...


1. Top Tier fighters don't even want to pay the fees to win the belt
2. The Belt owners are stripping fighters for not paying and/or not fighting certain fighters
3. Bob Arum will pay these Alphabelt Co. whatever they want as long as his stable keeps wearing the titles...


ALL BOILS DOWN TO MONEY AND BOB ARUM...

co-sign, good job

[Gorilla Dogs]

manny gonna reitre soon. he got knocked out in sparring

[LeadUppercut]

I really don't think Pac is sitting at the negotiating table saying i only want to fight at 154 and it better be for a belt..

This is Arum doing what Arum does best..> Getting the most **** for his buck and with the most advantages as possible. All at the expense of another Top Rank fighter...

I dunno about that, I think you may find that could well be the case

Manny wants the 8th divisional title, and Arum pulled the strings to make it happen. But I do agree with your point about Arum.

Even if they fight at 154 with no catch-weight, it is kind of meaningless.

Neither fighter is a jmw, and a number of other fighters at 154 are more worthy of this opportunity.

I just see it as more of a money fight for Arum, with a cheap title at stake.