Does/would Manny know if he is apparently taking something...............

[Dynamite Kid]

Does/would Manny know if he is apparently taking something...............

Just thinking about this last night, if he (Pac) refused a drug test then it has to be a case of, either Roach and Pac's team know they are giving him something he should not be taken, that Pacquiao doesn't know about, so have advised him not to accept the OST, or Pacquaio and his team both know he is taking something illegal and so have refused the OST.


What im getting at is, if Pac is taking something illegal then i honestly dont think he is doing it knowingly, he just does not strike me as that sort of man, of coarse that might sound naive, but i would be astonished if he was knowingly taking something, which leads me to my main point, if Pacquiao does not know that he is taking something illegal, then why would he refuse OST, he would have nothing to hide, so the only explantation for his intial skepticism toward the drugs testing would have to be reasons he highlighted, in his mind they must be valid reasons, reasons that have nothing to do with being hesitant of taking a drugs test cause he is dirty.


Essentially you are either saying Pac is dirty, or that his team is dirty and he is a victim, or he is clean, which is it ?

[cixthree]

I'll give you the brunt of what ul be getting as replies.
1. They will point to the 2005 vid, where he's making the blood test excuse.
(But to debunk that, just listen to his excuses in the post fight interview. No mention of a blood test, it was the gloves, head butt, itchy socks.

2. NSAC dont do blood test, Floyd is a chicken.

3. Blood makes Manny weak.

In a nutshell, you'll be getting a bunch of parrots comming on here making excuses basicaly.

I personaly think the scumbag Uncle Bribe/Bob planted Kontz and Ariza in team Pac. Pac had no idea in the start, but im sure he knows by now. That is if they are still pumping him with EPO.
If they are still pumping him, he's in on it now.

[Tamis!]

I'll give you the brunt of what ul be getting as replies.
1. They will point to the 2005 vid, where he's making the blood test excuse.
(But to debunk that, just listen to his excuses in the post fight interview. No mention of a blood test, it was the gloves, head butt, itchy socks.

2. NSAC dont do blood test, Floyd is a chicken.

3. Blood makes Manny weak.

In a nutshell, you'll be getting a bunch of parrots comming on here making excuses basicaly.

I personaly think the scumbag Uncle Bribe/Bob planted Kontz and Ariza in team Pac. Pac had no idea in the start, but im sure he knows by now. That is if they are still pumping him with EPO.
If they are still pumping him, he's in on it now.

Then I guess my reply would be different...

It's the A-SIDE-METH!

[Franco2012]

dumb thread

Roach said before Pacquiao even spoke on this **** tests,that they can take Pacquiao s piss and blood anytime they want!

And dirty athlete would never say I ll give you piss anytime you want!

[IMDAZED]

Of course he knows. As soon as he said, "I don't even know what a steroid is" you should've realized this too.

[Franco2012]

but we all know that Floyd knew that he takes PEDs and he admitted after Carlos Hernandez fight!

NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mariobrotherpr]

Manny Juices
Floyd Xylocaines
Vargas Juices
Mosley Juices
Margo Plasters
Toney Juiced in HW
Tito trick wraps

/ end thread

Innocent until proven guilty is just a legal concept.

[Dynamite Kid]

dumb thread

Roach said before Pacquiao even spoke on this **** tests,that they can take Pacquiao s piss and blood anytime they want!

And dirty athlete would never say I ll give you piss anytime you want!

Of course he knows. As soon as he said, "I don't even know what a steroid is" you should've realized this too.

So your saying that its down to Manny, that Roach and Pac's team cant be guilty so they only thing to question, is Pac's integrity, whether you think he would knowingly take it or not? also, to be fair, if he was! taking something dirty, not saying he is, then it would prolly make sense for both Roach and Pac to put conflicting statements out there.

I doubt he meant it literally, he probably meant he does not know the ins and outs of steroids, the difference between one steroid to another etc.

[Vadrigar.]

Exclusive Interview with Manny Pacquiao Conditioning Coach Alex Ariza:

*************: Other than Manny himself, you might be the best man to cleary Manny from these accusations he might have used performance enhancing drugs. What else can you tell the public?

Alex Ariza: “Just that’s it. It’s almost like a witch hunt. None of it is warranted. I’ve read, I’m in charge, he doesn’t know what he’s taking. Golden Boy and Mayweather, they don’t know what his supplements involve. They’re talking as if they know what we’re giving him. Like they know what kind of training he does. I have a great dietician – Teri Tom, she graduated from UCLA, did her internship at Cedars Sinai. She handles the dietician part of my program. Aundrea Macias went to San Diego State. Kinesiology. She does the research. I come up with the exercises, run them by her. Run the risk vs. reward, then implement it in our strength and conditioning program. Freddie is involved in every aspect of this, to the nutrition, to coming up with the special exercises. Then we run them through Manny. It’s very detailed. It would be irresponsible to do this on my own. Teri is phenomenal. Aundrea is a phenomenal research analyst. With Freddie we formulated a program. A lot of hard work went into this. It’s disappointing to see it’s being shattered and shadowed by these steroid accusations. You are right, I’m the one who brought this to Manny. I’d be more than willing to take a lie detector test. We’re not hiding anything. Why would I convince Manny to do something he doesn’t want to do?

[mathed]

Bottomline is all atheletes take supplements and get their "levels" checked routinely by doctors during training. I don't think he is on roids nor do really think Floyd is but they, as well as almost all other boxers, take shakes and vitamins and things to help them perform better. Ariza is a strength and conditioning trainer for far more boxers than just Pacquiao and not all of those guys have the speed and stamina that pac does. If Ariza was going to be "juicing" up boxers with some magical formula, I think he would be doing it to all of them and every fighter that Ariza trains would seem unbeatable. Pac has always either been an accumilation puncher stopping guys by longterm damage or a knockout puncher. Have a look at his record and see just how many fights he has won by KO or TKO- he just didn't start doing it in the last 3 years or so. It seems like people just really started to notice Pac with the DLH fight and are like wow, this little fella must be on something, lol. Pac has always been a very, very hard guy to beat and since he doesn't have to starve himself to make weight, takes nutrition seriously, and takes his training seriously, he is a much healthier boxer.......not juiced up on magical meth or whatever the running joke is.