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Gotta go with street bully on this. Berto is like Jermain taylor. HBO keeps telling me how good they (were) are but I don't see it when they fight.
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Clotteys career in a nutshell right there.Originally posted by street bully View PostTo each his own. I personally think Clottey beat Cotto, and it was comparable to Berto vs Collazo, which could have went either way. He could have beaten margarito if not for an injury. I am not very impressed with Berto, I really don't see what you guys see.
I don't know why you are so impressed with Clottey, either.
I don't see what you see.
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And yet, with all that, Floyd was bossing Mosley around the ring all night.Originally posted by street bully View PostNot a chance, you do realize how hard Mosley hits right? And it took about 20 flush haymakers, and they were haymakers, a round, plus a relentless body assault that Berto is not capable of dishing out to get Margarito to wilt.
Also I don't think berto is physically strong enough to man handle and push margarito around the ring like Mosley did. Mosley used to be a body builder and is very strong.
You can use the Collazo fight as a gauge. Mosley was tossing Collazo around like a rag doll, and looked to be far stronger, where as Berto at times was being pushed and held on the ropes by Collazo.
Mosley has proven himself vulnerable to stylistic, as well as physical, matchups. If Berto dances and boxes, he will trouble Mosley with his handspeed.
Andre ends up getting KO'd when Shane lands. Still. Because he doesn't have Floyd's composure, chin and smarts.
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They are different jabs.Originally posted by AntDawg View PostBerto has the better jab? I dunno about that one his jab looks just as bad as Mosley's. Like he just paws with it for the most part. I just can't see Berto beating Cotto. Also it doesn't seem like Berto can take body shots (judging for the Collozo fight) and Cotto can kill your body. Oh and if he tries to hold against Cotto he will get murked.
Cotto has the better timing with his jab.
Berto is more fast and explosive with his jab.
Berto will paw with his jab to get distance but he will also snap out with it.
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Just when I thought we could have a thread that doesn't involve Floyd... here come Vito to the rescue.Originally posted by Vito Corleone View PostAnd yet, with all that, Floyd was bossing Mosley around the ring all night.
Mosley has proven himself vulnerable to stylistic, as well as physical, matchups. If Berto dances and boxes, he will trouble Mosley with his handspeed.
Andre ends up getting KO'd when Shane lands. Still. Because he doesn't have Floyd's composure, chin and smarts.
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Eh I hardly see him snap it I just mainly see him paw with it and sometimes just gets countered when he does that because hes so open.Originally posted by reedickyaluss View PostThey are different jabs.
Cotto has the better timing with his jab.
Berto is more fast and explosive with his jab.
Berto will paw with his jab to get distance but he will also snap out with it.
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He did exactly what I talked about in the Quintana fight. He paws and paws, and then he snapped with it, it landed... and set him up for a body shot and left hook that rocked Quintana.Originally posted by AntDawg View PostEh I hardly see him snap it I just mainly see him paw with it and sometimes just gets countered when he does that because hes so open.
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He has also pawed a lot more than snapped in his last 3 fights because they were all southpaws. Collazo, Urango, & Quintana. He paws to find his distance and to also block and catch his opponents jab.Originally posted by AntDawg View PostEh I hardly see him snap it I just mainly see him paw with it and sometimes just gets countered when he does that because hes so open.
Against orthodox fighters he uses his jab a lot more, which Cotto is.
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I'm actually not very impressed with Clottey. He has what it takes to beat berto though. he has also fought better fighters, and only lost one which was beyond his control.Originally posted by reedickyaluss View PostClotteys career in a nutshell right there.
I don't know why you are so impressed with Clottey, either.
I don't see what you see.
Berto is pretty vulnerable, and gets hit too mcuh.
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