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  • #71
    Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
    good point. Clottey is alot like Brett favre is right now. You just know in the big game when it gets late he's throwing a pick.

    You know in a big fight clottey is giving away rds 10-12, the "championship" rounds!
    I think he could give those away and still beat berto, who would probably gassed himself by that point, since clinching a stronger man, who is a better inside fighter than you is not a good idea. Also Clottey works the body, something Berto doesn't work on.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by street bully View Post
      What is this based on though? Berto digging deep to win a fight against a gate keeper where he was a 4:1 favorite?

      Berto is easy to hit, has a questionable chin, and has stamina issues himself. A elite fighter really shouldn't have to dig deep to beat Collazo or look tenative against jr WWs.
      It's based on when he was in a razor thin fight with Collazo.. he dug down and won the last round when he needed it. 30 more seconds and Collazo would have been TKOed. Watch it again.

      It's also based on the fact that, that is what Clottey has done in every single important fight.

      Berto also doesn't do well with soutpaws, aside from Quintana. His last 3 opponents have been soutpaws. Collazo, Urango & Quintana. He doesn't look very comfortable fighting them.. not many fighters do.

      If the fight gets made... make sure you put your points on Clottey

      Points you don't care if you lose, of course.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
        He hit Cotto more than 5 times. Re-watch the fight. When Yuri decided to throw, Cotto got tagged. Especially near the end when Yuri was basically a wounded dog in a corner... he bit back and Cotto got hit with everything he threw.

        Fortunately for Cotto Yuri couldn't punch himself out of a wet kleenex.
        Hmm I guess i'll have to but from what I remember he didn't hit him flush that often like the way Berto gets hit in his fights. But my point is that Cotto imo is just to much for Berto. I was pulling for him and still do at times but I just don't see him Beating guys like Cotto and Clottey.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by street bully View Post
          I think he could give those away and still beat berto, who would probably gassed himself by that point, since clinching a stronger man, who is a better inside fighter than you is not a good idea. Also Clottey works the body, something Berto doesn't work on.
          Berto does work the body.. he had an excellent combination on Quintana where he led in with an excellent jab and then a straight right to the body.

          Clottey doesn't goto the body anymore than Berto does.

          When Clottey does goto the body it's the double left hook... Body & head. But it isn't often.

          And again, Berto looks awkward against southpaw fighters, as most do.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by AntDawg View Post
            Hmm I guess i'll have to but from what I remember he didn't hit him flush that often like the way Berto gets hit in his fights. But my point is that Cotto imo is just to much for Berto. I was pulling for him and still do at times but I just don't see him Beating guys like Cotto and Clottey.
            He beats Clottey no question. Clottey stays competitive, but loses the fight the same way he's lost every other important fight.

            Cotto-Berto would be EXTREMELY competitive. I'd say a definite 50-50 fight.

            I have no argument against anyone who takes Cotto.

            I would take Berto personally, but it could go either way.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
              Berto does work the body.. he had an excellent combination on Quintana where he led in with an excellent jab and then a straight right to the body.

              Clottey doesn't goto the body anymore than Berto does.

              When Clottey does goto the body it's the double left hook... Body & head. But it isn't often.

              And again, Berto looks awkward against southpaw fighters, as most do.
              Clottey goes to the body far more than Bero if you ask me. The Majority of Bertos body shots are in clinches, and clinching Clottey would be a dumb idea, sinc ehe actually fights best on the inside.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                He beats Clottey no question. Clottey stays competitive, but loses the fight the same way he's lost every other important fight.

                Cotto-Berto would be EXTREMELY competitive. I'd say a definite 50-50 fight.

                I have no argument against anyone who takes Cotto.

                I would take Berto personally, but it could go either way.
                I really don't think he could beat Clottey. For a few simple reasons. Berto for the most part won't be able to hit Clottey flush, Berto doesn't throw a ton of punches, Clottey is good at seeing opens. Clottey's straight right would hit time and time again. Thats just how I see it.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by street bully View Post
                  Clottey goes to the body far more than Bero if you ask me. The Majority of Bertos body shots are in clinches, and clinching Clottey would be a dumb idea, sinc ehe actually fights best on the inside.
                  Not the majority... he throws as many body shots outside of the clinch as he does inside the clinch. The infighting would be entertaining because it might be one of the only times Clottey decides to trade. Other than that.. from a distance. Berto uses his explosiveness and combinations to rack up points why Clottey plays deflector. Berto takes the championship rounds out of the unwillingness to lose and Clottey stays content with being competitive.

                  Berto UD Clottey 8-4

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                  • #79
                    I think Berto would beat Clottey.

                    I think Berto gets stopped by Mosley, Cotto, and Margairto.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by street bully View Post
                      I think he could give those away and still beat berto, who would probably gassed himself by that point, since clinching a stronger man, who is a better inside fighter than you is not a good idea. Also Clottey works the body, something Berto doesn't work on.
                      no way. i agree with you that berto aint all that. But Reedyck is right on. Clottey can't expect to win a 12 rd fight in 9 rds. Thats the mentatlity that cost ODh against Felix and Sweet Pea against ODH.

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