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  • bestboxingonly
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    #151
    I thought GBP said the fight was close to a done deal.

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    • Vito Corleone
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      #152
      Originally posted by bestboxingonly
      I thought GBP said the fight was close to a done deal.
      How could they? Arum said that GBP was never involved....right?

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      • baracuda
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        #153
        Originally posted by Vito Corleone
        How could they? Arum said that GBP was never involved....right?
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        • Vito Corleone
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          #154
          Originally posted by sapaw
          Another DUMB *****!!!! lol! that rule do exist on NSAC! 25% of the purse per lbs. for those ***** like you http://leg.state.nv.us/NAC/NAC-467.html#NAC467Sec522
          You dumb third world peasant. Read subpart 3 of your own link.

          And it's 25% TOTAL. Not 25% per pound.
          Last edited by Vito Corleone; 07-22-2010, 10:09 PM.

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          • plolglolglolp
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            #155
            why keep defending floyd?he's the one who said he's not yet gonna fight pacman..dont bring these blood test, money issue, etc coz its not the real reason.

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            • bestboxingonly
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              #156
              Originally posted by Vito Corleone
              How could they? Arum said that GBP was never involved....right?
              They might(only HBO and Haymon?) but for sure Haymon and GBP should be discussing with it since they're the one promoting Floyd?

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              • LeadUppercut
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                #157
                Originally posted by JAS_JAS
                ill answer your question you mindless *****....
                1.) PBF didn't sign anything you idiot because the contract was not made, beacuse they haven't agreed to terms (OST) remember? you idiot!!
                Stop being silly JAS.....

                It was reported that Mayweather agreed to 50/50, the 10 mil penalty, had signed the contract, and all that we were waiting for was for Manny to sign..... well, we are still waiting.

                The fight died because Manny would not agree to random blood testing within 24 days. And yet now he will agree to 14 days, WTF?

                Originally posted by JAS_JAS
                2.) because floyd was in no position then to dictate terms to manny pacquiao (fighter of the decade, 7 div champion, 4 lineal titles) get it? why would somebody with that achievement follow a guy who just got back into the game and fought an old and overweight marquez? get it now?
                Well, Mayweather was both P4P and PPV king before he retired, and nothing has changed. That has been proven, because Mayweather schooled the #1 welterweight Mosley pulling nearly 1.5 mil PPV's, when Manny ducked Shane like the plague after fighting Cotto at a catchweight

                So..... you are saying that the reason why the 5-6 different excuses that came from Team Pac, are now not a problem that will prevent Manny from fighting..... is because they were bull****?

                And that the real reason why Manny wouldn't agree to random blood tests is because he thought that he was too important, being FOTD and all that?

                Do you maybe wanna think about that for awhile JAS and get back to me ?

                I mean, it is obvious that those 5-6 excuses were just bull****, but that does sound a little silly bro.....

                Originally posted by JAS_JAS
                3.) same reason as #2.....
                JAS..... the real reason why Manny would not agree to random blood testing within 24 days of the fight, is not because..... " floyd was in no position then to dictate terms to manny pacquiao ".

                Bro, that is bull****, and you know it !!

                Aside from that comment being incorrect, or at least highly debatable, it is definitely NOT justification for refusing random blood tests and walking away from a $40 mil fight.

                Originally posted by JAS_JAS
                4.) how did you know that the contracts now has the same stipulations as the first negotiations? are you there? no one knows what the ****ing contracts contain except the negotiators and dont tell me you believe that no negotiations have been happening this past couple of months...
                My 4th question does not refer to a contract JAS.

                Everybody knows that Team Pac have publicly stated on NUMEROUS occasions, that they will now agree to the same 50/50 and 14-day cutoff that Mayweather offered during the first negotiations. I could probably post you half-a-dozen links proving that, but I know you won't ask for them

                So what has changed? Why will Manny now happily accept the reasonable terms that were so unacceptable back in January?

                You told me earlier it was because Manny was too important, what with him being "fighter of the decade, 7 div champion, 4 lineal titles".

                So now Manny's not too important to fight Floyd ?

                And NO, I do not believe that there have been "official" negotiations underway for a Mayweather/Pacquiao fight.

                Originally posted by JAS_JAS
                the only FACT that we know of today is what PBF has spouted which is "im not thinking of boxing right now blah blah blah" COWARD!!!
                It is plainly obvious that Mayweather is not interested in fighting at the moment, but how can you call him a coward when he agreed to fight back in January, and yet Manny ducked either Floyd himself or random blood tests?

                That sounds a little childish bro a little fan-boy'ish.

                JAS, read my 4th question again, it is now aimed at you directly.....

                4.) Mayweather agreed to the terms that Manny now wants back in January. HE WAS READY TO GO !! The first negotiation failed because Manny wouldn't agree to random blood testing within 24 days..... so why is it that you all PREFER to come to the conclusion that Mayweather is scared of Manny, instead of believing a known snake like Bob Arum when he pisses in your pocket and tells you it's raining?

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                • LeadUppercut
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by fcastro1
                  1.how did floyd sign a contract where both fighters cant agree on. Floyd signed a contract but not one that pac agreed to. i call that bull****.

                  So what? We are asking why Manny will agree to those same terms now?


                  2. there was one reason and i dont see how its relevent to these negotiations.manny was the reason last negotiations turned sour so its o.k for floyd to get a pass this time round.

                  Manny walked away from official negotiations because of random blood tests, according to recent reports there have not been any official negotiations since.

                  3. much to do about nothing. All that matters is that he made the concessions this time around. Does it really matter why he didn't the first time.

                  OF COURSE IT DOES, if you wanna take the childish approach and use it as justification to call Mayweather a coward. I mean, obviously he is not interested in fighting right now, and maybe Arum was correct when he indicated why......

                  I just don't see how that childish conclusion could possibly be accurate.


                  4. Its pretty simple. Floyd asked for tests against a innocent fighter. a tests he has never asked for in his previous 40 fights. Now once pac agrees we here excuses from split,taxes,roger oing to jail and the king of them all Arum lying to us through the media.
                  My bottom line : The "coward" accusations are childish, and fan-boy'ish..... considering that Mayweather agreed to fight Manny back in January.

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                  • LeadUppercut
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by RossCA
                    I think it was irresponsible for Bob Arum to announce these talks were going on and getting everyone excited, because he wasn't talking to Mayweathers camp or Golden boy directly. It would have been better if he kept it on the down low, but of course I think his intentions were to make Mayweather look bad. I think Arum knew all along a deal put like this with a dead line would never be made. I also think Floyd is a ***** for playing all these ****** mind games by acting uninterested. I guess he feels the wait will bring him more money.
                    I think that I slightly disagree with you as to the reasoning behind all of this, but you are absolutely looking at this from the right perspective.

                    There have been no "official" negotiatons..... Arum is full of ****.

                    Top Rank's PLAN A will proceed on schedule, and when there are no in-house fights left for Top Rank..... Arum will then accept a proposal, that he probably would not accept now.

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                    • LeadUppercut
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by sNiTcH
                      Ellerbe would only say he stands by his statement and wouldn't discuss it further.

                      Schaefer, whose company is promoting the blockbuster Juan Diaz-Juan Manuel Marquez rematch July 31 in Las Vegas, said he called De La Hoya and asked him about the quotes.

                      "His response to me was that he was taken out of context and that he didn't say that," Schaefer told USA TODAY on Wednesday. "I was surprised when I read these comments from Oscar, because they obviously were not accurate. And he told me he never made them, but supposedly he did. I don't really know."

                      http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxin...tiations_N.htm
                      That's a very good point, I remember reading Schaefer contradict Oscar, and then Oscar saying that he was mis-quoted.

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