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  • Vito Corleone
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    #291
    Originally posted by AFighter4U
    Why not expose Bob of his lies as well?

    Why are they both silent about Bob arum's lies?
    Ellerbe: "Either Arum is lying or Greenburg is lying"
    Greenburg: "Um, no comment"
    Arum: "This is bizarre"

    Of the three, who made the most definitive statement?

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    • rommel357
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      #292
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Oh, the echo game - cool! I'll answer again:

      If Manny Pacquiao doesn't submit to full testing, we ain't got no fight.

      No ands, ifs or buts. Oh...and no compromise on that.
      Wow! I feel like i'm talking to a child. First, how do you know for a fact that Manny in this second negotiation did not comply with the full testing and how do you know that Floyd demanded and agreed to a full testing or not either. Maybe Floyd agreed to the 14 day cut off date and maybe not, no one knows. Second, lets just say you're right that Manny still refuse to comply with the full testing, so i ask again, why didn't Floyd counter offer and why didn't Floyd himself mentioned that. Instead he simply said that he does not want to fight Manny right now. You don't know what's in the proposed contract, so for you to speculate anything is premature, and furthermore, you don't know what Floyd agreed on or didn't agreed on, so again, your accusation that Manny did not comply with the full testing is premature.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #293
        Team Pacquiao offered 50/50, 14 days through a third party. In other words, they don't want the fight. They never did.

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        • Vito Corleone
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          #294
          Originally posted by AFighter4U

          And if Arum is lying, don't you think both men are giving him their tacit approval to lie by their deafining silence?
          Haymon doesn't speak to the media. Arum is exploiting that. But Ellerbe made a definitive statement denying it, and he accused either Greenburg or Arum of lying.

          How much more definitive could it have been?

          And, oh by the way, he made a similar statement a month ago. So Ellerbe has been consistent.

          Big L may be consistently lying...but he has been consistent.

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          • rommel357
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            #295
            Originally posted by Vito Corleone
            Ellerbe: "Either Arum is lying or Greenburg is lying"
            Greenburg: "Um, no comment"
            Arum: "This is bizarre"

            Of the three, who made the most definitive statement?

            Riiiight, because Ellerbe, Haymon, and Schaefer could never ever lie, no way. The amount of fanboyism as a ***** in you is unprecedented.

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            • rommel357
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              #296
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Team Pacquiao offered 50/50, 14 days through a third party. In other words, they don't want the fight. They never did.

              Really, last time i checked the proposed contract was never revealed to the public. How do you know this for a fact again? Link of an article, anything, show me proof other than your speculation.

              BTW, who was the one that said "i don't want to fight Manny right now". You know the answer to that one.

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              • AFighter4U
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                #297
                Originally posted by Vito Corleone
                Haymon doesn't speak to the media. Arum is exploiting that. But Ellerbe made a definitive statement denying it, and he accused either Greenburg or Arum of lying.

                How much more definitive could it have been?

                And, oh by the way, he made a similar statement a month ago. So Ellerbe has been consistent.

                Big L may be consistently lying...but he has been consistent.
                Ohhhh... So Ellerbe, is a CONSISTENT LIAR.

                And you expect us to believe a consistent liar?

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                • Tamis!
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                  #298
                  Originally posted by rommel357
                  Riiiight, because Ellerbe, Haymon, and Schaefer could never ever lie, no way. The amount of fanboyism as a ***** in you is unprecedented.
                  LOL!

                  Double standards anyone?

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                  • Ray*
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                    #299
                    Originally posted by AFighter4U
                    Well, Arum claimed to have talked to Ross Greenberg, who supposedly talked to Al Haymon, Mayweather's manager about the fight.

                    I really wish that both Greenberg and Haymon would clarify the issue, but they only added to the confusion by refusing to clarify things and up to this moment are keeping quiet and not commenting about all that Bob Arum is saying about them.

                    If Arum is indeed lying through his teeth about his dealings with both Greenberg and Haymon, don't you think it behooves them to call him out on his blatant lies?

                    And if Arum is lying, don't you think both men are giving him their tacit approval to lie by their deafining silence?
                    Whether Arum actually talked to Greenburg is irrelevant in this whole saga, Arum claimed he never talked to anyone from Team Mayweather DIRECTLY! Ellerbe came out and said NO negotiation took place... So why is Arum saying he found those claims "Bizarre" ? How can those claims from Ellerbe be "Bizarre" if Arum never negotiate directly with anyone from Team Mayweather.....Despite claiming to have agreed a proposal with them on the 30th of June.
                    Last edited by Ray*; 07-21-2010, 10:41 AM.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #300
                      Originally posted by rommel357
                      Wow! I feel like i'm talking to a child. First, how do you know for a fact that Manny in this second negotiation did not comply with the full testing and how do you know that Floyd demanded and agreed to a full testing or not either. Maybe Floyd agreed to the 14 day cut off date and maybe not, no one knows. Second, lets just say you're right that Manny still refuse to comply with the full testing, so i ask again, why didn't Floyd counter offer and why didn't Floyd himself mentioned that. Instead he simply said that he does not want to fight Manny right now. You don't know what's in the proposed contract, so for you to speculate anything is premature, and furthermore, you don't know what Floyd agreed on or didn't agreed on, so again, your accusation that Manny did not comply with the full testing is premature.
                      Rommel:

                      Does it bother you at all that Bob Arum didn't specify anything? His press releases, streaming video, and all his interviews he still hasn't been specific about what manny agreed to. Yet you think the people who have spoke less are lying more. How do you arrive at that conclusion?

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