Burner thinks holding is okay.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

The difference between Cotto/Mosley vs. Margarito.

Was clinching.

Mosley clinched him non stop. Cotto never clinched once.

[Spray_resistant]

Fighters need to stop other fighters from holding them if they don't like it.

Angulo doesn't seem to have a problem when his opponents try to clench, last night was not the 1st time I have seen an opponent unable to grab on to him either.

[Dick Buffman]

holding is ok to him only if youre black!........ward is crap btw!

Ward, Dirrell, Mayweather, Berto....

Nuff said.

[Dick Buffman]

Fighters need to stop other fighters from holding them if they don't like it.

Angulo doesn't seem to have a problem when his opponents try to clench, last night was not the 1st time I have seen an opponent unable to grab on to him either.

It all depends on the ref.

If the ref allows a guy to hold, there's not that much you can do about it. Get in a ring and try to fight a guy who's holding you the whole time.

See Berto/Collazo.

Great ref in that fight.

[mathed]

Burner is ok..he is biased at times (well most of the time), but he is a swell guy..true boxing fan. we are all a bit biased but is is nice to find someone with a differing opinion that at least has some common sense...lots are lacking in that

[mathed]

Ward, Dirrell, Mayweather, Berto....

Nuff said.

I can't really argue there though.....lol..just look at the man's sig...j/k

[baracuda]

Ward, Dirrell, Mayweather, Berto....

Nuff said.

mofo tried to put hasegawa on his avy just to hide his agenda.....lol...his bull**** is as trasparent as floyd's with his ******ass!.........

[Dick Buffman]

I can't really argue there though.....lol..just look at the man's sig...j/k

mofo tried to put hasegawa on his avy just to hide his agenda.....lol...his bull**** is as trasparent as floyd's with his ******ass!.........

All guys who hold excessively usually against sub standard opponents.

And put me to sleep in the process.

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[Toney Loc]

It all depends on the ref.

If the ref allows a guy to hold, there's not that much you can do about it. Get in a ring and try to fight a guy who's holding you the whole time.

See Berto/Collazo.

Great ref in that fight.

Even Berto's own corner were telling him to stop clinching.

[Evil Abed]

Holding has been part of the sport since before we were all born.

It was the difference between Mosley vs Margarito/Williams vs Margarito and Cotto vs Margarito.

Williams and Mosley both held to disrupt Margarito's rhythm and to not let him get off.


Cotto was too much of a macho man and said he didn't held because he's a warrior. Well warrior, you need to go back and watch old tapes and see that even top 10 ATG's hold too.

Excellent post.

Hopefully Manny Steward noticed this as well.