Comments Thread For: Don King: Klitschko Did Not Want The Valuev Fight

[edgarg]

Almost everyone avoids Valuev, because he's so awesome. Fact.

That example of the double punch is very humourous. But it seems to me more like a push. He didn't seem to have any leverage at all before the opponent was right there practically "eyeball to eyeball".

Well actually eyeball to sternum, but you kow what I mean.

[joe strong]

I really didn't mean to imply that your post was ridiculous, but VERY far fetched. The simplest thing to do was to agree with the critical poster, who was actually an the right track as far as I see, but a bit too hard.

My reason is that you built up a complete, finished scenario, with absolutely no grounds at all, except pure speculation, which I thought was hard to swallow.

It reminded me of those guys writing about The Dead Sea Scrolls, or whether Jesus ever existed, ( a point with which I actually strongly agree) who pick on an ambiguous term, usually the LEAST probable of many, and build a huge edifice from it, enough to fill a book, (which they get published) with patently impossible "facts". Your was not so speculative as those, but heading that way.

It almost (not quite, but almost) reminded me of the guys who, seeing a fly speck on their electonis telescope, hail their discovery of a new, unknown planet, and, pece by piece, equip it with an atmossphere, humanoid inhabitants, modular buildings and space travel which explains, (to them, and other credulous beings) the sightings of "flying saucers"

(The very best actual explanatory dissertion on "flying saucers" is by Isaac Asimov).

Well, I'm only kidding.....sort of............

Just my opinion.

i did say i was just speculating....im just really curious to why vitali makes a video & calls valuev a chicken yet valuev says he agreed to it.he also said that vitali called him a slave to fear & valuev in agentlemanly manner shot back the multiple rematch clauses in the contract was slavery....im not at the table while they talk & neither are you,so both of us are speculating.our opinions are different but neither of us are wrong because we are not involved in the contract talks.

[Chuckguy]

So offering the ****** Giant his biggest pay day is not showing interest?
Man Don King needs to die already
we had the loss of two yankee greats now let the Don go
these things happen in 3's

[joe strong]

im not so sure king is the problem here....who knows? nobody on this site does

[edgarg]

THis is the most ridiculous fight negotiation going on right now....

Valuev wants the fight
King wants the fight
Vitali wants the fight.


There making this a lot harder than it hsould be.

Each one of those 3 could stymie the match. One must be a liar. Now.......I wonder............. which one could it be????

[edgarg]

i did say i was just speculating....im just really curious to why vitali makes a video & calls valuev a chicken yet valuev says he agreed to it.he also said that vitali called him a slave to fear & valuev in agentlemanly manner shot back the multiple rematch clauses in the contract was slavery....im not at the table while they talk & neither are you,so both of us are speculating.our opinions are different but neither of us are wrong because we are not involved in the contract talks.

No, No, you did not, in your extremely speculative post, say you were speculating, you said that later in another post answering a critical email.

Your definitive post concerning which you gat several rebuttals, not onl mine, just was begun by "if it's true...." and then you go on to make many impossible assertions, like ........"Vitaly is trying to swindle more money than he's entitled to...." and ....I see a crack in Vitaly's armour......." etc.etc. These don't look like speculations, and the little "if it's true" cannot possibly be taken by ANYONE to mean that from then on, you are "speculating".

I know that in a LATER post, replying to a criticism, you write that you were speculating, but nowhere in the original can it be understood to be speculation.

Of course, just my (speculative) opinion.......... Sorry (again) just couldn't resist. A bad habit I've been trying to break for years. No success I'm afraid.......

[Steelhammer2011]

Don King is full of **** as usual.

[BritishBoxing92]

Last week, WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko issued a video statement on the never-ending negotiations to make a fight with ex-champion Nikolai Valuev. Klitschko said Valuev was "scared" to accept an offer of $1.5 million for an October fight. Valuev issued a quick response to Klitschko's statement. Valuev claimed that he accepted the offer of $1.5 million and it was Klitschko who was running from their fight.

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zomg!!!....don the rat king appears out of the abyss to make this statement..when clearly vitali offered 1.5 mill to valuev which was the max he could have offered yet valuev wanted more....so in other words both are full of it!!

[Hitman932]

You can also go back and look at the press release from Vitali about the original 1.5 million offer.

I believe he made the comment (paraphrasing) "If they wait it will continue to get lower and lower."

My guess is Don King tried to pull some bull**** and Vitali said, "OK, no more 1.5 million, now it's 1.3"

And then Don King said "We accept the 1.5!!!! "

[maverock]

Don King has long been known his his negotiating tactics that benefit his own pockets but rarely those of his own fighters. Valuev probably gets ripped off by King and ends up making only a fraction of what Klitschko is offering. The rest goes into the coffers of Don King.