Tribute to Hawk - The man who would have defeated Floyd Mayweather Jr.(51 mb video)

[MetalVomit]

Aaron Pryor was a monster. I wish I could see more of his fights.

[jack_the_rippuh]

It looks like the argument stuff is over.
I never seen Pryor fight so no comment, but a good question would be, "Could Prime Pryor clean out today's 140lb division?"

[PBDS]

What you can't get, because you weren't alive then, was the TONE of what was going on then....what was being said...who was where when it was all happening.

There was NO DEMAND for a Leonard-Pryor bout.
Leonard retired a week before Pryor fought Arguello. Leonard's decision put the stops to a propsed bout with HAGLER, a middlewight. No one really cared to see Leonard take on Pryor when a fight with Hagler lurked.
Do you know Pryor was not so highly regarded up until the night he beat Arguello ? Do you know 90% of "experts" (writers, trainers, fighters) were picking Arguello to not only beat Pryor, but to blow him away ?
Why would anyone, who thought the past-his-best Arguello would CRUSH Pryor, believe Pryor was legit for Ray Leonard ?

This is why it does matter to have been conscious during the time period.

You can watch all the Pryor tapes you want, doesn't tell you the whole story. Second-hand stories (from Pryor supporters) concerning Leonard's supposed fear of Pryor aren't much either.

...I watched that fight live at my buddies house and was totally pissed that Pryor won. Arguello nailed him flush with huge shots and it didn't faze Pryor. Only a crackhead could take that abuse and keep coming. Alexis was one of my alltime faves.

[Yogi]

i want you to tell me how you are so sure of this. to me it just looks like YOU didn't think the fight was in demand.

Jabs is right, dude. There wasn't really any demand for it, and if my memory of actually living through that era isn't good enough, I can still look at a few boxing magazines left over from that era and there's absolutely no mention of a possible fight between Leonard and Pryor. In fact, even though it wasn't talked about a whole lot, there was much more demand/interest in a possible Leonard/Arguello fight (besides a Hagler fight for Leonard, or a Hearns rematch, this is the only other high profile proposed fight that really got any press) than one with Pryor.

[Slipx]

"Could Prime Pryor clean out today's 140lb division?"

With or without Panama Louises 'Mix'?

kidding.

seriously, I think he could do it..Everyone thinks Floyd would box circles around him, but you know Pryor would find a way to get inside and land bombs, and you know mayweather has been dazed before to the point where he was thinking about surviving the round..

[Slipx]

sorry for calling you a fake or a phony jack.

he pm'd me his record. it's respectable, i wont say it here though out of respect.

[SUPER ZAB FAN]

I had some extra time yesterday so I decided to make this film about my favorite 'little guy', Aaron 'Hawk' Pryor. In recent years we have been subjected to a large amount of fighters that just up and quit the fight, including the great Mike Tyson.One of the reasons I admire Aaron is he would never dream of quitting, he didn't care whether or not he lived or died in the ring. You'll never see Pryor get knocked down and spit out his mouthpiece to buy himself time to recooperate like cheapo corrales did. My second favorite little guy is Chavez of course, but in my opinion nobody had the same ferocity and warrior mentality as Pryor. He has to be the #1 mentally adept fighter of all time, next to Marvin Hagler.Every time Hawk entered that square circle it was life or death to him, he'd rather die in there than quit.



We need more fighters like Aaron. The average guy takes a look at Boxing and thinks it's just a show, what it really is is much more than just a show; Sigfried and Roy, and the dancing girls, and David Copperfield, those are shows, Boxing is not a show. It's where each man risks his well being every second of every round to prove himself to the gods of boxing, striving to each write their own page in the book of the sweet science.

Tribute to The Hawk (39(35 ko's)-1-0 [52 mb]

http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2NXI7Z7RMHNYB20K36I6EYZQF0

PS- I honestly believe Pryor would beat Floyd Mayweather Jr, without Panama Louis


edit- there's the link, sorry about that.(posted the thread without movie link.)

GOOD show Slipx

[PBDS]

sorry for calling you a fake or a phony jack.

he pm'd me his record. it's respectable, i wont say it here though out of respect.

.....I didn't think Jack ever boxed and the whole ring talk thing was part of the Mayweather avatar persona. If Jack is a boxer then I'm a figure skater. No offense Jack.

[Slipx]

You're an idiot SlipX.....buying into the stereotype of Philly fighters....
Shows you READ a lot, but experience nothing.

Harold Johnson, Hopkins, Georgie Benton, Jeff Chandler, Tyrone Everett.....MASTER BOXERS.

I'm not sure about those other names there, but I do know for sure that when Bernard started out, he was a feared brawler. He got that from Philly. Of course he evolved into a master boxer, but the reason he is great, I think, is because he took those Philidalphia brawling skills and rather than pull a Meldrick Taylor and take a bunch of punches and get old quick, he developed a seriously lethal boxing style that will own Taylor in 48 hours.

Just trying to have a civilized say in this, I'm betting at least one or two of those others guys on that list started out as primal brawlers, just like Hopkins too. I might be wrong though, because I'm just assuming that, and I admit I do feel like an assclown for using that philly stereotype, but it's so true for many philly fighters.

You're terribly insecure.

Insecurity is a good thing when it comes to Boxing, just like being afraid before a fight is.

Evander really described it the best, though. Because he always talked about how he would go in and box, and he would always end up brawling, because that was Evander's nature.

Evander: "I chose to be insecure about what people might say, I wanted to prove to the other guy, you hurt me, I'll hurt you back"

[jabsRstiff]

A twist on your "brawler at first, boxer later"...

Saad Muhammad started his career (maybe through his first 15-20 fights or so) as a boxer.
Somewhere along the line, he discovered he could soak up a ton of shots & bomb back like a bastard....so he became the legendary slugger he was.