Do floyd fans really want the pacquaio fight?

[The Big Dunn]

false, to even allude that floyd is bigger than the sport of boxing is a lie.

youre done, dunn. have fun on floyds honeymoon. He has the time now

Man just read the post again and answer in its full context.

[The Big Dunn]

I think we can add dunn to 3 of the 4 from this list

Actually i debate tamis all the time. he doesn't dodge questions he just reads the context and responds.

[The Big Dunn]

Quote:
Originally Posted by shogunn
haha, **** this mentality of floyd and his fans. The world doesnt revolve around floyd. theyre actually glad the fight isnt taking place. It sucks Manny has to move on because floyd is scared.

What is a legitimate reason as to why floyd doesnt want to floyd manny this time around? "he just doesnt feel like it?" its sad you guys defend it. floyd fans arent fans of boxing. Theyre fans of "floyd entertainment"

Big Dunn's response:
Shogunn this is the business they have chosen. You know as well as anyone that this business is about asses in seats and selling ppvs to make money. Floyd is doing it better than anyone. Floyd didn't make himself bigger than the sport by himself.

Its ESPN amd wilbon who only talk boxing when floyd is involved. Its haters on this board that hate floyd yet use part of his name in their screen name. Its the casual fans that tune in to 24/7 when floyd is on and don't watch when he isn't. They all made floyd that big. Don't blame him blame them

The game has changed. don't be mad that floyd has taken advantage of it. I mean Julio Ceaser Chavez Jr. generates more money than any top 10 fighter except floyd, manny, and maybe cotto. Thats crazy!

I feel your frustration but lets be real. Manny wants to fight because he stands to make 3x his biggets payday. floyd wants to fight but only on his terms. This is how its always been. We just didnt have the same behind the scenes access we do now.

[shogunn]

PTI and around the horn never discuss boxing except to discuss floyd Thats why I said that. Again, is the whole post true or false?

and that means he's bigger than the sport of boxing? is that how you gage it? haha. So when cotto and manny fought and they were mentioned on PTI, around the horn, did that make both of them bigger than the sport of boxing too? or are you selective about your illustrious process. Ali and tyson still get mentioned all over ESPN without a flick of floyd. yet floyd himself is bigger than the sport?

your appointed boxer thats bigger than the sport of itself didnt even win FOTD. How about he starts there first.

youre done, dunn. wasting everyone's time. This thread was to prove fans like you exist.

[The Big Dunn]

and that means he's bigger than the sport of boxing? is that how you gage it? haha. So when cotto and manny fought and they were mentioned on PTI, around the horn, did that make both of them bigger than the sport of boxing too? or are you selective about your illustrious process. Ali and tyson still get mentioned all over ESPN without a flick of floyd. yet floyd himself is bigger than the sport?

your appointed boxer thats bigger than the sport of itself didnt even win FOTD. How about he starts there first.

youre done, dunn. wasting everyone's time. This thread was to prove fans like you exist.

I posted your point and my response. You are taking what I wrote so literally that its impossible for you to discuss rationally. If you go back, Afighter4U responded to the same post. he took the time to read it all and didn't parse it.

The point is rather than discuss boxing, ESPN's mainstream talk shows discuss floyd and only floyd. he's a coward, he is scared. They talk about floyd not about boxing. They seem to care more about him than the sport, hence that portion of my post!

Ali and Tyson are bigger than the sport! In Manilla Manny is bigger than boxing. wouldn't you agree with that?

Dude manny absolutely desrved fotd and FOTY. but if he isn't generating as many dollars as another guy he is most likely subject to their terms.

[Tamis!]

Calm down guys!

Dunn is a cool dude you can talk sense in him. Shogunn as well has good inputs.

You guys should call it flaps and don't ever get to the Floyd stan level, which I know you both are far from.

[JOM'S]

I know I want the fight. I've been wanting it for a while now, despite my criticism of Manny and how he handled all of the testing stuff. However, I got some good information about the fight. This whole deadline thing, was not really a deadline. It was merely a media stint and alot of people bought it. All is not lost.

I am a believer bro, I will just wait patiently for the fight to happen...

[shogunn]

I posted your point and my response. You are taking what I wrote so literally that its impossible for you to discuss rationally. If you go back, Afighter4U responded to the same post. he took the time to read it all and didn't parse it.

The point is rather than discuss boxing, ESPN's mainstream talk shows discuss floyd and only floyd. he's a coward, he is scared. They talk about floyd not about boxing. They seem to care more about him than the sport, hence that portion of my post!

Ali and Tyson are bigger than the sport! In Manilla Manny is bigger than boxing. wouldn't you agree with that?

Dude manny absolutely desrved fotd and FOTY. but if he isn't generating as many dollars as another guy he is most likely subject to their terms.

again, thats bull****. they reason why mention floyd at all and call him things such as coward, *****, etc, is because he refuses to fight manny.. And YES, they mention MANNY PACQUAIO when discussing floyd. They're intertwined.

so does that also makes manny bigger than the sport since he's mentioned. Isnt that an illogical and ****ed up way of thinking? im wasting my time arguing with the guy that thinks floyd is bigger than teh sport of boxing simply because ESPN calls him a coward.

[maguirre]

That is so true. They were pressing down on Pac to accept all of Floyd's terms, yet Floyd gets a pass on... everything. Basically everything Floyd says they will vouch for and defend. If Floyd said tomorrow that he wanted a USADA rep in Manny's camp, by his side up until the fight to make sure he doesn't dope, they'd probably welcome that. He could say anything and they'd nuthug

It's a bittersweet thing for me. On one hand I was dying for this fight to happen. On the other, the sickening discussions about PEDs, PPVs perpetrated by Floyd fans are finally over. At least, that's what should be expected. Any normal person gotta be sick pretending Pac is using peds when dealing with these fanatical Floyd fans.

Now I'd expect them to continue with OSDT crap when their idol faces whoever. He won't get away with 18 days cut-off this time. I have said my piece on this. NO ONE, including Floyd, should ever go through this process of extracting a tube of blood from boxers. It's inhumane and cruel. There's got to be a better way. Floyd fanatics' jealousy and hatred got the better of them. Floyd is not a robot or an animal. Of course, it has a deleterious effect especially during the training session.

But Floyd and his fans want it. So be it.

[Guest]

I am a believer bro, I will just wait patiently for the fight to happen...

They better do this **** quick. It's less than 4 months now.

Every passing day makes it worse.

Unless they aren't going to do it until next year.