Tsyzu has started to run from hatton Already!

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  • jabsRstiff
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    #31
    Originally posted by Frank the Tank
    Who in particular, out of interest?
    Judah, Mitchell, Jake Rodriguez, Hurtado, M.A. Gonzalez, Tackie...
    No true greats, but a steady stream of very solid guys.
    Tszyu has been on top for a long time, is super-consistent.

    He also beat tough guys early in his career. He was about the least protected "super" prospect I can remember.

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    • Cletus Funk
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      #32
      Originally posted by jabsRstiff
      Judah, Mitchell, Jake Rodriguez, Hurtado, M.A. Gonzalez, Tackie...
      No true greats, but a steady stream of very solid guys.
      Tszyu has been on top for a long time, is super-consistent.

      He also beat tough guys early in his career. He was about the least protected "super" prospect I can remember.
      I agree that he couldn't have done more but I think Hatton would give him a lot more problems than the guys on your list that I've seen fight, especially Tackie.

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      • urdaddyinAZ
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        #33
        Here are a few other known fighters he has beaten:

        Livingstone Bramble
        Roger Mayweather
        Rafael Ruelas
        Miguel Angel Gonzales
        Julio Cesar Chavez
        JJ Leija

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          #34
          Originally posted by urdaddyinAZ
          Here are a few other known fighters he has beaten:

          Livingstone Bramble
          Roger Mayweather
          Rafael Ruelas
          Miguel Angel Gonzales
          Julio Cesar Chavez
          JJ Leija
          (I may be arguing against my own cause, but....)


          They're all known fighters, but 5 out of 6 were kinda shot when tszyu took them on.
          Listing those names actually detracts from Tszyu's record.

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            #35
            Originally posted by jabsRstiff
            (I may be arguing against my own cause, but....)


            They're all known fighters, but 5 out of 6 were kinda shot when tszyu took them on.
            Listing those names actually detracts from Tszyu's record.

            Fair statement, but he also fought them much earlier in his career and wasn't the fighter he is today.

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              #36
              Originally posted by urdaddyinAZ
              Here are a few other known fighters he has beaten:

              Livingstone Bramble
              Roger Mayweather
              Rafael Ruelas
              Miguel Angel Gonzales
              Julio Cesar Chavez
              JJ Leija
              He's definitely fought a lot of good fighters but only a couple of great ones IMO, and Chavez was well on the slide by then. I don't think his resume stands up against the likes of DLH's, Barrera's,etc to the point where you can say that he is unquestionably great. I'm also not convinced that he has had to answer the sort of questions that a fight with Hatton would ask of him.
              Last edited by Cletus Funk; 12-08-2004, 10:05 AM.

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              • Nick1998
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                #37
                Originally posted by urdaddyinAZ
                Just another sickening case of Warren babying Hatton and trying to keep all his fights in his backyard where he is comfortable.

                Let me say this once and for all..........the United States is where the major championship fights of our generation go down...PERIOD. The Klitchko's fight here, all the Mexican champs fight here, Tszyu fights here, Lennox fought here, all the African fighters fight here.

                Warren, if you wanna have your little spoon feed fighter get his ass laid down by the best 140 pounder in the world.......then sign the contract and bring his lilly ass to Mandalay Bay!
                You couldnt have said it better. Warren has just been feeding him all of Sharmba's leftovers. I mean c'mon he fought Mike Stewart for Gods Sake after Sharmba destroyed him. Sharmba was going to bend over backwards to fight Hatton and Hatton wanted no part of it.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Nick1998
                  You couldnt have said it better. Warren has just been feeding him all of Sharmba's leftovers. I mean c'mon he fought Mike Stewart for Gods Sake after Sharmba destroyed him. Sharmba was going to bend over backwards to fight Hatton and Hatton wanted no part of it.
                  Rubbish. And it was Hatton who destroyed Stewart, Mitchell couldn't get rid of him in 12.

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                    #39
                    There is alot of talk about records and who protected particually at 140, if you look at all the top contenders none of there records set the world on fire:

                    Tyzu has beaten: Mitchell (x2), JC Chavez, Judah, Tackie, Hurtardo, Rulez, Leija

                    Hatton has beaten: Tackie, Phillips, Stewart, Rios, Vilches, Magee.


                    Mayweather has beaten: Chop chop, N'dou at 140


                    Gatti has beaten: Dorrin, Ward (x2), Branco
                    but more ominously lost to: Ward, Robinson (x2), Manfreddy

                    Mitchell has beaten: Stewart, N'dou, Tackie, Phillips, Vilches, Flores, Green
                    but again more ominously lost to: Johnson, Johnston

                    Cotto has beaten: Pinto, N'dou

                    Harris has beaten: Urkal (x2),Hurtardo, Johnson
                    more worringly lost to: Olivera

                    Nobody is throwing up bones in the division, although you would say that Zoo has the most impressive, although if you count Mayweather at lower weights then....

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Frank the Tank
                      Rubbish. And it was Hatton who destroyed Stewart, Mitchell couldn't get rid of him in 12.

                      Mitchell floored him 3 times, battered him, & pretty much shut him out.
                      He did this before Hatton took him out.

                      Edge goes to Mitchell.

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