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  • Cletus Funk
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    #21
    Originally posted by urdaddyinAZ
    Let me ask all you Hatton fans a question......if roles were reversed say:

    Hatton is current champ and considered best at 140.......would you go fight Miguel Cotto in Puerto Rico for the championship?


    I didn't think so.
    If the money was right, yes.

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      #22
      I don't think anyone was going nuts over Sharmba Mitchell. It wasn't his incredible skills that had many (myself included) favoring him over Tszyu. It was Tszyu's inactivity, injury-induced, that lead me to believe a slick lefty like Sharmba would be too difficult a challenge after such a long layoff.

      As for Tszyu-Hatton....

      Tszyu will dominate Hatton. Everything Hatton does, Tszyu does better.
      Hatton's power is overrated. He overdoes it with his shots, frequently.....cranking them way up, yet not delivering one-shot power. He has exaggerrated moves, like the ones he does to set up body shots. Those moves look nice against mid-level guys, but will get him caught against the higher-level fighters.

      Hatton will be exposed by Tszyu...as just a good, solid pug.....a fighter not cut out to be one of the world's best.

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        #23
        Originally posted by urdaddyinAZ
        Let me ask all you Hatton fans a question......if roles were reversed say:

        Hatton is current champ and considered best at 140.......would you go fight Miguel Cotto in Puerto Rico for the championship?


        I didn't think so.
        my point exactly.
        thats a good point about the timing. last time i went to a hatton fight (magee) the cops were armed with what looked like uzi sub-machine guns, and this was before the pubs closed! i was glad when i got back on the m6, i don't mind saying.

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          #24
          Originally posted by JPW
          just thinking a little left of field.... its not just that its the logistics of it too, the US tv companies to finance the fight would want it to take place around 2 am for PPV purposes, cant see 22 thousand folk piling into the centre of Manchester at gone 3 am with no transport and bevved up being too much of a problem for the local authorities can you.

          Guess who would have to sanction the go ahead...yip the local authorities.

          So thats out then, so all the money has to come form FW, which is why its not feasible to go above 2 mill and FW would be taking a loss on that as well I would imagine.
          I agree that Warren probably would be taking a loss on those figures without some US TV backing and I agree that there would be logistical problems but a midnight fight would go out in the US at 5-7pm at the right time of year which isn't too bad.

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            #25
            Originally posted by jabsRstiff
            I don't think anyone was going nuts over Sharmba Mitchell. It wasn't his incredible skills that had many (myself included) favoring him over Tszyu. It was Tszyu's inactivity, injury-induced, that lead me to believe a slick lefty like Sharmba would be too difficult a challenge after such a long layoff.

            As for Tszyu-Hatton....

            Tszyu will dominate Hatton. Everything Hatton does, Tszyu does better.
            Hatton's power is overrated. He overdoes it with his shots, frequently.....cranking them way up, yet not delivering one-shot power. He has exaggerrated moves, like the ones he does to set up body shots. Those moves look nice against mid-level guys, but will get him caught against the higher-level fighters.

            Hatton will be exposed by Tszyu...as just a good, solid pug.....a fighter not cut out to be one of the world's best.

            I agree, but there is always the possibility that Hatton proves all of us non-believers wrong. If that happens, I will have no problem stepping forward and saying that I was wrong and I underestimated him.

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              #26
              Originally posted by urdaddyinAZ
              Let me ask all you Hatton fans a question......if roles were reversed say:

              Hatton is current champ and considered best at 140.......would you go fight Miguel Cotto in Puerto Rico for the championship?


              I didn't think so.

              I totally agree with you - hence as I said..... 'Hatton and Warren should be chasing Zoo round the world for a location even in a barn in Siberia if they have to.'

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                #27
                Originally posted by jabsRstiff
                Tszyu will dominate Hatton. Everything Hatton does, Tszyu does better.
                Hatton's power is overrated. He overdoes it with his shots, frequently.....cranking them way up, yet not delivering one-shot power. He has exaggerrated moves, like the ones he does to set up body shots. Those moves look nice against mid-level guys, but will get him caught against the higher-level fighters.

                Hatton will be exposed by Tszyu...as just a good, solid pug.....a fighter not cut out to be one of the world's best.
                Maybe Tszyu will get exposed by Hatton. Although he's beaten the best at his weight except Phillips, the quality on is resume is not that great. There's only one way to find out. As for his power, not many peolpe claim he does have 1 shot power but the cummulative effect of his shots is more than adequate. If his moves were that exagerated he wouldn't average nearly 50% shots landed in all his fights, the majority of them power shots.

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                  #28
                  I think Tszyu has a terrific resume !

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by jabsRstiff
                    I think Tszyu has a terrific resume !
                    Who in particular out of interest, as I don't claim to know half of the guys on there?
                    Last edited by Cletus Funk; 12-08-2004, 09:37 AM.

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                      #30
                      Jabbs...

                      I have to disagree with you there I really don't think Zoo does everything better than Hatton, Zoo could never keep up the temp and work rate that Hatton has....not in a million years! As for the arguement about power yes Zoo ****s harder than Hatton I give you that but Hatton's power is not overated and he has the ability to hurt Zoo, I question weather Zoo throws better to the body, I think Hatton is the most effective body puncher in the division although Gatti can **** to the body.

                      The one thing I do agree with you about is the movement that sets Hatton up to deliver to the body, it is a little exagerated and telegraphed - but I would imagine that can be worked on.

                      I'm not suggesting that Hatton is a dead cert to beat Zoo, I think it could be a great fight but I do give him chance.

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