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  • qwerty07
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    #401
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Think about it like this... How many fighters have won 3 divisions title and more. Now compare that to how many have won 3 lineal division championships and more... And, tell me which list has the greater fighters.
    That's statistics. There are 5 other belts to 1 lineal belt. You can say, "how many guys have won the WBC belt in 3 divisions" and the list would be pretty impressive also.

    Take a situation like Mosley/Cotto/Margarito. They did a triangle beat down, because their styles made the fights. Mosley just happened to be the last guy fighting in the chain. I don't believe he was the best fighter at 147 when he beat Margarito. There was still Clottey and Cotto again and Paul Williams and Mayweather. And then Shane still held that belt when Pac came up and beat Cotto and Clottey. You can't really blame Pac or any fighter who choose not to fight Shane because of his lack of draw. I don't call that ducking. Now when Pac/Floyd broke down, Mosley was still scheduled to fight Berto, so Pac fought Clottey.

    So you can see there that some fighters lack the opportunity to ever get a shot with the lineal title holder (because of business reasons, time reasons, age reasons), and sometimes the lineal title holder isn't worthy, so that makes the concept flawed, and makes the title on the same level as the other belts.
    Last edited by qwerty07; 07-16-2010, 01:38 AM.

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    • sicko
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      #402
      Originally posted by Clayton Bigsby
      im just responding to a thread. when did you see me spout how great wilbon & bob ryan's boxing knowledge is?

      all im saying is look at the *****s trying to marginalize sports writers & analysts who went to college & follow sports for a living. that's all.


      you want to use bert sugar & al bernstein? those guys get ripped all the time by floyd fans whenever they say anything bad about floyd.


      take a deep breathe & realize where you are.


      we are in a thread in nsb.


      this is a game we are playing. floyd fans vs pacfans. *****s vs *******s. You have to be reminded of this?

      your point of view is extremely BIAS, you only notice what Mayweather fans do but your clearly as blind as Clayton Bigsby lol when it comes to noticing what Pacman fans do on a DAILY BASES, they all (Exclusive Mayweather and Pacman Fans) do the same damn immature thing, they love the Writers and Reports that they agree with and say all the right stuff they want to hear about their favorite fighters and they HATE the objective Writers and Reports who may not write or say all positive stuff about their favorite fighter

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      • baracuda
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        #403
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        I have always gave example on why the ring is flawed... You and anybody else can take it how they wanted... I am not knocking anybody but when I explain how calling the ring champ lineal is flawed and you still with the whole bible of boxing bull****. Then I am going to have my opinion of you.

        No OST is fair? Yea it is. It was fair for the rest of his 40 opponents why wouldn't it be fair for Pac? But, also I agree that 14 days is fair, I also think 10 days is fair, I think 7 days is fair, I think 5 days is fair. And, personally me? I would prefer it all the way up to the fight. Just cuz I don't want to hear any excuses if Pac wins. Again what is wrong with that? You just so close minded that if people think unlike you that you think they writing garbage.

        Balls being measured on who had more rematches? WTF? If that is the case than oscar has more balls. That is not what I said. I said who and why the rematch happened or not happened is the measure of balls....

        Oscar beat Tito for the first 8 rounds too bad it was a 12 round fight. Oscar dominated Quartey? really? Wow........

        Floyd-Oscar SD? Really you agree with the judges? How was that fight close? Oscar won 3 rounds 4 if you being generous. Why should Floyd gave Oscar a rematch? That would of been lack of balls IMO. Again who and why the rematch did or did not happen.

        And, for you to look at age as a barometer on who the tougher fight is. Shows me how serious you're as a poster.
        ok, some people trust the ring more than ohers cool, but it is all opiinions.....

        yeah, what i meant is that when you said hoya ducked rematches , that is your measuring stick to who had the more balls, since floyd only had one rematch..


        ok since hoya ha more close fights and failed to rematch them, it means his competition was not better than floyd's?.....i think thats what you sayin...that is a big bs imo..

        so floyd fighting pac without OST is fair ..cool, so why cant you say that in imdazed's thread?...lol....

        age is always a factor on who is more legit ....so who's the better comp, a 39 year old masely or a chavez sr , sweatpea in their early 30's?....

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        • Ragnar Lothbrok
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          #404
          Originally posted by sicko
          your point of view is extremely BIAS, you only notice what Mayweather fans do but your clearly as blind as Clayton Bigsby lol when it comes to noticing what Pacman fans do on a DAILY BASES, they all (Exclusive Mayweather and Pacman Fans) do the same damn immature thing, they love the Writers and Reports that they agree with and say all the right stuff they want to hear about their favorite fighters and they HATE the objective Writers and Reports who may not write or say all positive stuff about their favorite fighter

          extremely bias?


          its *****s that marginalize & discredit emmanuel steward, freddie roach, bert sugar, al bernstein, larry merchant, ring magazine, & boxing writers association of america when they dont give floyd certain awards & talk bad about it.

          get over yourself & know where you are. like i said before, we are in nsb & this here is a game between pacfans vs floyd fans.

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          • sicko
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            #405
            Originally posted by Clayton Bigsby
            extremely bias?


            its *****s that marginalize & discredit emmanuel steward, freddie roach, bert sugar, al bernstein, larry merchant, ring magazine, & boxing writers association of america when they dont give floyd certain awards & talk bad about it.

            get over yourself & know where you are. like i said before, we are in nsb & this here is a game between pacfans vs floyd fans.

            just like Pacman fans discredit people who question Pacman or people who say they would pick Mayweather over Pacman, BOTH SIDES do the exact same thing

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            • Ragnar Lothbrok
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              #406
              Originally posted by sicko
              just like Pacman fans discredit people who question Pacman or people who say they would pick Mayweather over Pacman, BOTH SIDES do the exact same thing
              i just told you & gave you examples of *****s trying to discredit hall of fame trainers & analysts & sports writers.

              i suggest you do the same thing.


              *****s are the worst offender when it comes to discrediting great trainers, analysts, & historians. another example, mike silver.

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              • Khalid X
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                #407
                Originally posted by Clayton Bigsby
                you need to read some of the posts in this thread.


                they immediately marginalize the boxing knowledge of the people on the show because the show which covers mainstream sports & topics, & is 30 minutes long, is not a hardcore boxing show.
                I'm glad somebody gets it. To say those guys are casual fans and don't know **** about boxing is ridiculous. People fail to realize that they have to talk about the topics that are hot at the moment and unfortunately boxing is not one of them. The casual fans want to here about the world cup, Lebron going to the heat, Tiger Woods and other popular topics. It's comical to think that they are gonna chose to talk about the super 6, and fights like Williams vs Martinez and Mosley vs Mora over the more popular stories of the day.

                Again it's called catering to your audience and people act like wilbon and those guys come up with these topics themselves. ESPN gives them the topics that should be discussed, they do the research, and then talk about them on their shows. So if the guys at ESPN, that are behind the scenes, feel boxing isn't the topic people want to hear.....then guys like Wilbon and others won't discuss them.
                Last edited by Khalid X; 07-16-2010, 02:44 AM.

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                • pasawayako
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                  #408
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  The absolute last place anyone should go for a great insight on boxing is PTI.

                  It is what it is a bunch of casual fans with mics and opinions. Nothing more.
                  they don't need to be a boxing experts, the important thing is they inform the public on who is ducking the fight, that's the important part their. LOL.

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                  • pasawayako
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                    #409
                    Originally posted by baracuda
                    i was'nt talking about religion, i was simply comparing what you said , since the ring is the bble of boxing.....like i said ,to you it is more credible, but you cant blame others for thinking otherwise since we all know " the ring's past reputation"....they dont call it the bible of boxing for nothing......you play the nsb police when someone says ****** things but when it's imdazed talking garbage like sayin" pac's needs to prove he aint dirty" or " pac's terms aint fair" etc, you do nothing but nuthug his ass!...lol

                    in the oscar thread you claim tht floyd had more balls tho you refiuse to say why you think that......you refused to vote too,we all know it was so obviuos who had the better comp........it was clear you said what you said since you hate oscar..meaing youre doing what you think is messed up others are doing.lol..that is all i was sayin.....
                    i think jro is more of a IMDAZED fan than a pacquiao fan.

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                    • Batobalani
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                      #410
                      Mayweather got ripped.

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