is it possible to achieve ATG status today?

[MaD RoBoT]

Only Pacquiao & Floyd Jr. were considered by many as sure locked top 20 ATGs nowadays

can any boxer today possibly reach the level of those two had?

beating both of them (which i think is next to impossible) can be one requirement but other than that, who should beat who in order to become an ATG today?

what about the Super Six? can any of them might make it?

[cupocity303]

Only Pacquiao & Floyd Jr. were considered by many as sure locked top 20 ATGs nowadays

can any boxer today possibly reach the level of those two had?

beating both of them (which i think is next to impossible) can be one requirement but other than that, who should beat who in order to become an ATG today?

what about the Super Six? can any of them might make it?

ATG is too broad of a term. If you're talking about top 100, then yes it's easy.

If you're talking top 20 or better yet top 10, then no it's almost impossible.

Not enough fights for modern day fighter and the fights they do have aren't all against other great fighters.

[NesNY]

depends how long your list is.
top 10 ATG. HA! not in this era. the money f**ked it all up. Thanks f@ggot ass Oscar.

top 20...maaaaaaaybe.

top 30.....maybe.
top 40. sure.

[horge]

There's a reason Floyd and Pac are among the very few who
might be considered.

ATG Candidates would have to be judged on level terms with
the fighters of yesteryear, obviously. That means yesteryear's
weightclasses, hence an ATG welter of yesteryear might only
be matched by a 3-4 weightclass champion today. Having
multiple alphabelts cuts both ways: fewer comp back then,
but then you have a lot of paper champions today.

It's still possible to aim for ATG 20-30, as Pac (and to perhaps
a lesser extent Floyd) have shown, but the thing is, one HAS
to be aiming for it. Back then, what it took was native to
simply working within the sport. These days, like I said, one has
to consciously go after multiweight dominance, just to be
judged clearly on the same terms as champions past.

JM2
h.

[Equinox]

I dont think Mayweather or Pacquiao are top 20 ATG. Im sorry if they are the 2 biggest names in boxing right now and Im a big Floyd fan but there are a whole load of guys that over came more during harder times.

[Neutral Corner]

A few years ago nobody thought Pacman would be where he is today.

It's definately possible.

[JAB5239]

ATG is too broad of a term. If you're talking about top 100, then yes it's easy.

If you're talking top 20 or better yet top 10, then no it's almost impossible.

Not enough fights for modern day fighter and the fights they do have aren't all against other great fighters.

I pretty much agree with this but believe the possibility is there. Unfortunately fighters today are handicapped by to many ABC orgs. If one were to shun these groups and fight the best regardless, clean out divisions, that type of greatness could be attained. Jmo.

[cupocity303]

I pretty much agree with this but believe the possibility is there. Unfortunately fighters today are handicapped by to many ABC orgs. If one were to shun these groups and fight the best regardless, clean out divisions, that type of greatness could be attained. Jmo.

I actually think the whole, win one title (even if it's a paper belt I.E. Pac vs Diaz, Floyd vs Gatti) and keep it moving is not that intriguing anymore.

I'd rather see a guy fight for a good long time in one division, win a belt and maybe defend it once or twice, get a unification fight against another belt holder and than another (OR the opponent may hold all the other belts). And then defend that Undisputed Championship once before vacating, just to hear the words UNDISPUTED from the announcer before vacating and letting them all split apart. And then move up in weight and try to do it all over again.

That right there, a strong 2-division achievement is better than someone moving up, collecting belts so he can be called a 10-division, multi title holding champion. In this Junion/Super weight/multi-titles era, that would set you apart from everybody else.

[Russian Crushin]

ATG is too broad of a term. If you're talking about top 100, then yes it's easy.

If you're talking top 20 or better yet top 10, then no it's almost impossible.

Not enough fights for modern day fighter and the fights they do have aren't all against other great fighters.

Top 10 is locked up, nobodys pretty much getting there no matter what

20 is almost the same but its possible

Now top 40 is where i would rank Pac

And Floyd is somewhere in top 100

Right now almost everyone would rate Pac and Floyd top 10 or 20 but its because they are on the scene now. If Hearns, Leonard or Duran were here today and fought the same fighters they fought in the 80's then we would say they were top 1,2 and 3 ATGF

[JAB5239]

I actually think the whole, win one title (even if it's a paper belt I.E. Pac vs Diaz, Floyd vs Gatti) and keep it moving is not that intriguing anymore.

I'd rather see a guy fight for a good long time in one division, win a belt and maybe defend it once or twice, get a unification fight against another belt holder and than another (OR the opponent may hold all the other belts). And then defend that Undisputed Championship once before vacating, just to hear the words UNDISPUTED from the announcer before vacating and letting them all split apart. And then move up in weight and try to do it all over again.

That right there, a strong 2-division achievement is better than someone moving up, collecting belts so he can be called a 10-division, multi title holding champion. In this Junion/Super weight/multi-titles era, that would set you apart from everybody else.

It has always been my opinion that cleaning out a division is much more impressive than cherry picking titles. That goes for EVERY fighter today. When you beat everybody it leaves no question marks.