Did "The Ring Magazine" make a mistake in their rankings

[TheGreat1]

a tournment with the four champs would really clear this whole mess up, with Rahman/toney to get the 1st undisputed title shot.

VK vs. Ruiz
VK wins UD

Bryd vs. Brewster
Brewster wins 4th rd ko


VK vs. Brewster ------ Champion
Brewster by 9rd K ---------- L.Brewster

[scap]

If you read my post you will notice that i didn't knock anyone, i was making my point as to who i think should be the Champ, if you don't agree thats fine, but u r in no position to tell me to shut up because you don't even know me like that. when i speak to people i talk as if they where standing in front of me, unlike alot of people like you who get very bold behind there screens. Point is VK, Bryd, Brewster are good fighter's, and deserve to be champions, IMO Brewster is the best of the bunch. (With The exception of Toney who will rule the Div very soon) i should include Ruiz because he defends like a true Champion win or loose, he loves to fight.

Ya know what your right in a way...if I came across sounding tough forgive me, if we were to talk in person I would say the same thing I just think it would come across much differently.

Your still wrong though, all four guys dont deserve belts, why does chris Byrd deserve a belt? Your boy Brewster is lucky as hell to have a belt with his performance against Meehan! Ruiz gotten beaten by Toney why does he deserve a belt?

Why is Brewster the best of the bunch? Because he beat Golota? Cmon, arent you the one who kept touting Viv Harris...think about that for a moment and then slow play your love for Brewster until he has really done something.

I am sorry for being mean-I just get excited sometimes.

[TheGreat1]

Ya know what your right in a way...if I came across sounding tough forgive me, if we were to talk in person I would say the same thing I just think it would come across much differently.

Your still wrong though, all four guys dont deserve belts, why does chris Byrd deserve a belt? Your boy Brewster is lucky as hell to have a belt with his performance against Meehan! Ruiz gotten beaten by Toney why does he deserve a belt?

Why is Brewster the best of the bunch? Because he beat Golota? Cmon, arent you the one who kept touting Viv Harris...think about that for a moment and then slow play your love for Brewster until he has really done something.

I am sorry for being mean-I just get excited sometimes.

Nah, I d like Harris, but i hadn't seen enough of him to boost him up, My fav's are Toney/Tarver/Brewster/and PBF. as far as VK goes, i think there are only a few fighter who even has a chance with him, Rahman who he doesn't seem to want to fight. Wlad, who he won't fight because of there mother, but would KO him in 4 or 5 rounds. Brewster who would be a great fight whould most likely have to KO VK and he has the power to do so. Toney who i feel can beat anyone right now. With that said, I think VK is a top fighter in the Div, just not the Best IMO

[Hitman932]

They will not strip a fighter of a belt out of the ring rather they will just call a fighter out if they see fit, so if the ring has questions about what the hell VK is doing then they should jump on him in their magazine.

The ring needs to call for a tournement, and when that doesnt work call for another and then another...

i agree, really the only thing that can hold these guys responsible for their inactivity is the boxing public. this should change. i think the rankings system could be set up to reward active fighters more and to punish those that are inactive. not to say it has to be cut and dry, but im sure a happy medium could be found. a fighter shouldnt be allowed to lounge around for a year and maintain a rank much less a title.


a tournament, however nice in theory, will never truly come off, just like a college football playoff.

one reason being the klitschkos wont fight each other. if they both won it would set up a situation where ultimately a match was forfeited.

the other big one being the bracket would be completely stacked by don king w/ his fighters on one side with andrew golota, jameel mccline, clifford etienne and oleg maskaev.

[STEELHEAD]

Sanctioning Vitali Klitschko vs Corrie Sanders for their title at Heavyweight?

I have no problem with Vitali keeping the WBC title, and fighting whoever he wants. If Rahman isn't available until later in the fall, so be it. Let him fight Maskiev, Brock or whoever.

But strip the man of the Ring Belt.

The biggest blow to the Ring belt's credibility was sanctioning Vitali vs Sanders for their belt, which in reccent years was gaining more and more credibility. Since then, he's fought only once in a year and two months, and it was agaisnt Danny Williams.

I would have less of a problem with him fighting scrubs, and taking his time deciding what he wants to do if he just was a WBC title holder.

But this whole Ring Belt, in conjunction with HBO, calling and touting Vitali Klitschko as "THE" Heavyweight champion is bull ****.

Everyone is at square one at Heavyweight. All of them. None of them are particularly impressive, they've all fought soft opposition to a certian extent, and they're all too inactive.

Vitali Klitschko NEVER should have been declaired the "Ring" Champion, and this is evident in the hard facts about who he's fought since, and what he's doing now.

The "Ring" title should be held vacent until someone unifies the "WBC" WBA" and "IBF" titles. THAT'S where the liniage should continue.

i agree with all your points. hbo is doing a good job in hyping these clowns.

[PBDS]

That has nothing to do with what I asked in the 1st post in this thread. A small majority who think he's the better of a very poor bunch doesn't make him deserving of the ring title when A) He hasn't beaten anyone impressive B) Has been very inactive and C) Has lost the two biggest fights of his career.

This thread is asking for opinions, and aside from you and your girlfriend Torino, I don't see anyone else disagreeing.

Which, of course, makes you upset.

Time to send me some private messages?

Perhaps another "crushing" is in order?

....Yeah, you may need some more PM's to get you to send me the Wlad/Brewster fight. I agreed to watch that last round with my "Klitschko vision off" as you put it and give you my honest opinion. Still waiting on you to send that fight. Maybe the ring did make a mistake in their process, but that's all academic now. Vitali is the recognized champ now. He is losing some support due to the inactivity but all will be right once he gets back in the ring and starts knocking guys out again. Right now he is the favortie against anyone out there by a minimum of 2/1 and probably higher. What is your opinion of a fight with he and the Rock? Willing to bet a sig of my choice on it if it happens?? Man, that crushing comment really bothered you diddn't it?? Sorry if I hurt your feelings with that comment. I sometimes forget how sensitive you are.

[Bozo_no no]

....Yeah, you may need some more PM's to get you to send me the Wlad/Brewster fight. Man, that crushing comment really bothered you diddn't it?? Sorry if I hurt your feelings with that comment. I sometimes forget how sensitive you are.

Nothing a 41 year old slob who's in an online "Alliance" says could bother anyone. It "bothered" me as much as your post in that other thread where in a typo you said "I big ***" about yourself. So if by "bothered" you mean "find you so pathetic it's funny", then yes, you hit the nail on the head.

I already told you I don't have that Wlad Brewster fight on PC, and even if I did, I wouldn't waste my time sending it to someone not capeable of watching it objectivly.

Your comment about how upset you were the 1st time you saw it and how you were unable to watch it again sums you up to a tee. That's indicative of your overall mentality about the Klitschkos.

Oh, and I have no interest on betting on Rahman, because I don't think he's going to beat Barrett.

[PBDS]

Nothing a 41 year old slob who's in an online "Alliance" says could bother anyone.

I already told you I don't have that Wlad Brewster fight on PC, and even if I did, I wouldn't waste my time sending it to someone not capeable of watching it objectivly.

Your comment about how upset you were the 1st time you saw it and how you were unable to watch it again sums you up to a tee. That's indicative of your overall mentality about the Klitschkos.

Oh, and I have no interest on betting on Rahman, because I don't think he's going to beat Barrett.

....Alright then, lets have a discusion about who you think would beat Vitali. Do you think Brock stands a chance? Who is going to beat VK? Try a serious answer and not rhetoric.

[Bozo_no no]

....Alright then, lets have a discusion about who you think would beat Vitali. Do you think Brock stands a chance? Who is going to beat VK? Try a serious answer and not rhetoric.

This couldn't be anymore text book for you as a Nut Hugger.

Try and change the subject away from you and Torino being the only ones who disagreed with my opening post, right into the "What If" game.

It's a favorite of you fanatics.

From "What if" the Lewis fight hadn't been stopped, to "What if Vitali fights...."


I'll tell you what, when Vitali SIGNS to fight someone, I'll tell you who I think would win the fight.

At that rate, I'll be answering one question a year.

[PBDS]

Bozo said: I already told you I don't have that Wlad Brewster fight on PC, and even if I did, I wouldn't waste my time sending it to someone not capeable of watching it objectivly.


....If you already told me that I wouldn't still be asking for it. Did you mention it in a thread that I haven't gone back to perhaps? I told you I would try to be objective about it. I know Wlad has issues but IMO the jury is still out on him. Vitali is the best heavy out there right now and that's the bottom line.