Yeah, a win over De La Hoya is no biggie if you ask me. Which big name didn't deserve to beat him other than Vargas?
Mayweather Jr vs Sugar Shane Mosley?
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I would route for Mayweather in this matchup simply because I'm a bigger fan of Mayweather. Each fighter has their advantages, though. Whichever one can use their advantage better than the other will take it, but that's usually the case with most fights (no brainer)...Comment
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borikua said it best:
"I just wonder if Shane still has enough confidence in his abilities"
make no mistake shane coulda stopped estrada, he just didn't pursue it.
i think shane has plenty in the tank to make this a great fight,
the question is, does he still have the killer instinct?
if shane gets discouraged by floyds d and counters, then it will
be floyd by decision.
if mosley shakes it off and gets to floyds body, we might see floyd get ko'd.
either way, floyd is not gonna knock shane out.
forrest and wright are much bigger punchers than floyd and neither of them stopped shane.
it would be a great fight. the only better fight would be shane and zab,
cuz judah is a little wilder and less defensive than floyd.Comment
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This is a good fight for Shane, if he wins it puts him back on the Map, and also shows how good Winky realy is.
Bad fight for PBF because if he wins, people just say that Shane is past his prime, and it won't help him in the P4P ranking at all. PBF should not take this fight, he should wait for Hatton.Comment
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"do the math"? you must of flunked out of first grade.Originally posted by DiegoFuegoMosley has slim to no chance against Mayweather. Mosley is one of the most overrated fighters of all time. Mayweather is one of the greatest fighters of all time. Do the math.
read the previous posts in this thread.many good points have been brought up.
look at mayweathers opponents. shane can beat all of them.
look at shanes opponents. outside of estrada little floyd would get beat by forrest,dlh,lefty wright.and shane was close in winky two.Comment
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estrada was mosleys first tuneup ever. and he treated it as such. yeah it bugged me that shane didnt make fast work of estrada.i figured goosen wanted him to get a workout.Originally posted by uncle_ricoborikua said it best:
"I just wonder if Shane still has enough confidence in his abilities"
make no mistake shane coulda stopped estrada, he just didn't pursue it.
i think shane has plenty in the tank to make this a great fight,
the question is, does he still have the killer instinct?
if shane gets discouraged by floyds d and counters, then it will
be floyd by decision.
if mosley shakes it off and gets to floyds body, we might see floyd get ko'd.
either way, floyd is not gonna knock shane out.
forrest and wright are much bigger punchers than floyd and neither of them stopped shane.
it would be a great fight. the only better fight would be shane and zab,
cuz judah is a little wilder and less defensive than floyd.
and yes. somethings still up with shanes confidents. it really took a toll on mosley fighting all those tough fights without any tuneups. other boxers should use this as an example of what not to do .
i think that fighting a pbf or floyd would bring the best out of mosley. but i dont see either fighter wanting to deal with a risky shane fight. no reason to.
shanes going to have to beat one of the paper belt holders before zab will look at him.Comment
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yeah, that's probably right.Originally posted by steelheadestrada was mosleys first tuneup ever. and he treated it as such. yeah it bugged me that shane didnt make fast work of estrada.i figured goosen wanted him to get a workout.
and yes. somethings still up with shanes confidents. it really took a toll on mosley fighting all those tough fights without any tuneups. other boxers should use this as an example of what not to do .
i think that fighting a pbf or floyd would bring the best out of mosley. but i dont see either fighter wanting to deal with a risky shane fight. no reason to.
shanes going to have to beat one of the paper belt holders before zab will look at him.
what drives me nuts tho, is, shane looks like a different fighter since the first forrest fight.
if you look at the first forrest fight and look at the first round, shane was standing right in front of him looking to knock him out. for real. no dancing, no avoiding the big right hand, he was in the pocket looking to get an early ko.
forrest threw some punches and shane looked annoyed, like, "ok clown, stop throwin so i can knock you out already".
then after shane got knocked down, shane was never the same.
a big reason why i like shane so much is cuz he used to knock people out. his skills are unreal and he wanted to knock people out. so, if he goes back to that, he could potentially be undisputed at 147.Comment
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mayweather does even better than winky in winky-mosley 1
i dont think mosley is able to think straight.
his gameplan against winky wright was poor both times
although 2nd time out was closer. mayweather ud 117-110
i really believe mosley wont win another big fightComment
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hey man, it was that accidental headbutt in that forrest fight.thats what you seen rico. it changed everything. mosley became hurky jerky because he was like imbarassed he got hurt for the first time. its like he seen blood flowing from himself for the first time and it freaked him out. everything went downhill from there except for a gift call by the judges in the dlh fight. and he did come close in winkyII.Originally posted by uncle_ricoyeah, that's probably right.
what drives me nuts tho, is, shane looks like a different fighter since the first forrest fight.
if you look at the first forrest fight and look at the first round, shane was standing right in front of him looking to knock him out. for real. no dancing, no avoiding the big right hand, he was in the pocket looking to get an early ko.
forrest threw some punches and shane looked annoyed, like, "ok clown, stop throwin so i can knock you out already".
then after shane got knocked down, shane was never the same.
a big reason why i like shane so much is cuz he used to knock people out. his skills are unreal and he wanted to knock people out. so, if he goes back to that, he could potentially be undisputed at 147.
i was expecting mosley to end it quick against his first ever tuneup fight against estrada but evidently goosen wanted him to stretch it out to get a good work out.mosley still didnt look like he has regained his confidents in that stay busy fight. that disturbs me.
mosley is a huge 147 .side by side he makes zab judah look like a cancer patient.
a zab or pbf fight would bring the best out of shane. mosley with his world class chin and speed and intelligents would be dangerous for them.
man all the hype surrounding zab and pbf. i'm telling you shane is a big 147 guy next to zab and pbf. neither of these guys have fought the likes of someone as big and powerfull as mosley.
ask yourself this could pbf or zab even have a chance against lefty wright. mosley came close in the second fight.
the general public tyson,ruiz,klitmo type fans always bring up shanes string of losses. which seems legit until you realize that he fought the best without any tuneup fights inbetween. a career damaging fault by his trainers his dad and goosen. pbf and zab have learnt by shane. thats how come you have seen and will see floyd and zab take so many stay busy fights rather than dangerous fight.it only makes financial sense.
to reiterate to today. shane is huge next to floyd and zab. neither has the power to hurt mosley. neither could last going toe to toe with mosley. could they outbox mosley using there speed?just look at the winky fights.mosley won plenty of rounds in those two fights.sure zab and floyd may be considered faster.but not that much faster than wright.and this may shock you but winkys footwork,head movement(its so hard for the best to land a solid punch to his head)and power is much more better than zab and pbf has shown against the smaller guys.
both these guys are going to get hit by mosley.mosley will slow them down with the hardest punches theve ever felt to the body.and to the head.mosley gets hit alot. can they hit him enough times to hurt him?
all that said, both could win by points on mosley if they fight a smart fight and use the ring.but i hope otherwise.Comment
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