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because you threw him in the mix---didn't you ask if the shoe was on floyd's foot, would have sold more than 50k? didn't you mean had he fought clottey? and i answered yes----that's why he's in the mix----
and don't you think that a fighter who lost against cotto would sell less than manny vs miguel? it sold more than manny vs cotto and manny vs de la hoya? why can't you explain that one? i'm not even talking about floyd's fight with oscar---this is floyd's fight with shane-----
and as far as floyd vs cotto goes, it was cotto who ducked floyd, remember this---he still has yet to call floyd out publicly---he decideds to let his promoter negotiate his fights---the same promiter who put him in the ring with the bigger star in manny at a ****in catchweight for his title, and cotto get so much less of the purse split----floyd wanted cotto for 10 million instead of margarito who couldn't sell to save his life, still can't----and tony wasn't undefeated like cotto was----and tony wasn't the official undisputed champ like baldomir was------think about this a little more---had floyd fought tony instead of baldomir, would you have criticized him for doing that? even though floyd didn't want to fight carlose--he wanted de la hoya, then shane-----then cotto---he never wanted to fight tony------that was a pointless fight---tony couldn't get his name up to save his life---cotto entered the ww division in 2006 didn't he? he fought quitana and then urango and then mosley in 2007------cotto's name still wasn't big, but floyd still wanted to fight him because he was undefeatead and was making a lot of noise-----didn't cotto fight zab after floyd did?
the point is cotto had chances to fight floyd back in late 2005 and 2006----cotto came to 2 of floyd's fight to watch him work----bruselles and gatti and kept his mouth shut, like a good little boy-----
floyd didn't fight cotto because cotto couldn't get himself big until he beat shane, yet could never find the guts to call floyd out----people say that's not what cotto does---he doesn't call out fighters---well, floyd is the draw---floyd is the money maker---floyd doesn't accept challenges from these fighter's fans----he's not fighting the fans---he wants to see what the fighters want to do---it's their jobs to call him out, not the fans---cotto stayed shut, tony waited to call out floyd when floyd had better options on the table---bigger fights, much better challenges----tony to this day isn't a big challenge for floyd, never has been---shane proved that---and tony was caught cheating-----what does that say about these guys? they have to cheat to win, while floyd has to just train hard to dominate them-----
so what if floyd and shane barely outsold manny and cotto----floyd is so boring to you guys, yet he outsells these action packed fighters---why can't you explain why?Comment
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yeah, because wilbon has merit--lol---who cares what he thinks---he wouldn't know anything boxing had he been born in an everlast glove----who cares what he and skip bayless think----don't even mention dan raefeal---he's a fat ass tool-----Comment
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Yours is of professional fighters faces photoshopped on to half-nude men, in some ****** dream of yours. Sicko.Comment
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Are you hurt?
yes, there is a gag order.
and probably arum is way too noisy about the fight, which on the other hand appears to be favoring in the team pac's side at least in the eyes of the majority of the media.
on the other hand, why do floyd or team floyd at least say anything...they are even tweeter away to say like we r contemplating on decisions or nullify arum's pronouncement of his team's agreement to full testing.
and now the media is hitting floyd unfavorably because of his complete silence.
do you have any speculation why floyd is letting himself be crucified?
an animal being cornered bites, why do the team floyd dont even bark?
please let us avoid calling floyd a ***** or ducker. and let us TRY to be objective, probably team floyd has something for us.
**sorry if i put it here. the mod closed my thread which i understand. let us wait till tomorrow before we spread hate.
Floyd better be doing it it for the good not for ducking. If he stay silent and not have any response then ppl would think he is just scared after Team Pac. calling all his bluff.
what are you talking about kid? he said that before he fought shane mosley-----pay attention---he said if his ppv fight with mosley does better than pacquiao/clottey, manny can forget 50/50 and the ost will be random up until the day of the fight, and his fight with mosley, not only doubled pacquaio/clottey, it sold more than manny's fights with cotto and de la hoya----floyd is obviously the bigger star and has been for years------yet, manny fans still try to claim that manny is the bigger draw because he's not from the united states, yet his ppv sales are still huge---
okay, that's fair enough i guess, but isn't this the same fans who claim the reason floyd's fights have sold so huge the last 4 or 5 years was because of his opponents? damn, if that's true, then hatton, jmm, mosley, and de la hoya are bigger than manny huh? so why did hatton make less than manny? his fight with floyd outsold his fight with manny didn't it? when was the last time mosley fought on ppv? was it cotto? was it vargas? was it winky? which one was it? it damn sure wasn't margarito was it?
floyd made all of those claims you posted before he fought shane----did you sleep over those interviews or something? and i feel floyd will still sign just to shut everybody up and increase his income while easily beating manny up in the process----
btw, even clottey's countrymen wanted pacquaio to win. He had zero followers. Don't even mention him.Comment
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Just like Floyd who jump into conclusion. What makes you think this is photoshop?
You're just hating coz your boy hasn't sign the contract.Comment
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Sidenote, if I was some Floyd hater, would I put him at # 1 P4P in this little video I made:
[/QUOTE]okay, so if you don't agree that i have been giving facts, then that's your opinion but if it isn't up to me to decide that i have been giving facts, or anybody else for that matter, then instead of bashing my posts for grammar and **** like that, how about rebutting against them with actual logic, not insults. then, that would make your arguments against me a little more decent----
you'd rather throw insults at me, than counter my arguments and what i call facts with facts of your own----how can you make that decision about me not being able to decide whether what i'm giving are facts, if you can't give me anything you believe are facts to deny it? you're giving me insults, not logic and you know it-----and as far as someone else deciding if what i'm giving is fact or not, is a little far fectched, because it's all subjective anyway----because you may not see them as facts, but somebody else will----and, it's not like i'm not doing my research and not paying attention-----and even if i'm wrong, who are you to say that without giving me something better than me cheerleading or being unconditionally in love----that won't win any kind of argument in court you know-----
at least give me something, like vlad used to do---coz this cupocity guy isn't doing that good of a job---Last edited by pbftxrs316; 07-15-2010, 11:18 PM.Comment
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Are you hurt?
I think the GAG Order was just suppose to be there Until the negotiation is done. Both side agreed to the terms so the negotiation is done. I wouldn't want Arum to just sit there until May of next year of floyds decide to fight next year. And if arum decide to just go on with margacheato or cotto then it would make him look bad without him explaining. *****s will probably call manny the duck king.
Floyd better be doing it it for the good not for ducking. If he stay silent and not have any response then ppl would think he is just scared after Team Pac. calling all his bluff.
Why do you like writing essays. Really, you can just explain things with sentence. I rather finish reading the the whole series of twilight than this.
btw, even clottey's countrymen wanted pacquaio to win. He had zero followers. Don't even mention him.
and b4 you make a criticism as to why i put clottey in my post, maybe you should get the insight on it-----you have to pay attention to detail little homey-----
amd just because you think clottey's countrymen wanted manny to win, doesn't make it fact----coz last time i checked, clottey gets major support from his countrymen and women---so where are you getting that argument from? and don't lie-----
you'd have to be a fool to claim clottey didn't have supporters when in all of his fights won, they held parades and parties for him----you're a damn fool----Last edited by pbftxrs316; 07-15-2010, 11:25 PM.Comment
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Whether you give facts can't be denied is up to somebody else to decide, not you. Self-proclaiming to have all the facts & truths down, that cannot be challenged is the most arrogant self-defeating thing you can do, and kills the purpose of debate. You might even say, putting your foot in your mouth like that, you beat yourself and save the work from somebody else.
Sidenote, if I was some Floyd hater, would I put him at # 1 P4P in this little video I made:
you'd rather throw insults at me, than counter my arguments and what i call facts with facts of your own----how can you make that decision about me not being able to decide whether what i'm giving are facts, if you can't give me anything you believe are facts to deny it? you're giving me insults, not logic and you know it-----and as far as someone else deciding if what i'm giving is fact or not, is a little far fectched, because it's all subjective anyway----because you may not see them as facts, but somebody else will----and, it's not like i'm not doing my research and not paying attention-----and even if i'm wrong, who are you to say that without giving me something better than me cheerleading or being unconditionally in love----that won't win any kind of argument in court you know-----
at least give me something, like vlad used to do---coz this cupocity guy isn't doing that good of a job---
Second, why didn't you answer the first part...when's the last time you made a thread that was even remotely critical of Floyd Mayweather Jr? Is there nothing that he does that doesn't side well with you?Comment
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