I have a feeling that Floyd will..

[gapo]

what are you talking about kid? he said that before he fought shane mosley-----pay attention---he said if his ppv fight with mosley does better than pacquiao/clottey, manny can forget 50/50 and the ost will be random up until the day of the fight, and his fight with mosley, not only doubled pacquaio/clottey, it sold more than manny's fights with cotto and de la hoya----floyd is obviously the bigger star and has been for years------yet, manny fans still try to claim that manny is the bigger draw because he's not from the united states, yet his ppv sales are still huge---

okay, that's fair enough i guess, but isn't this the same fans who claim the reason floyd's fights have sold so huge the last 4 or 5 years was because of his opponents? damn, if that's true, then hatton, jmm, mosley, and de la hoya are bigger than manny huh? so why did hatton make less than manny? his fight with floyd outsold his fight with manny didn't it? when was the last time mosley fought on ppv? was it cotto? was it vargas? was it winky? which one was it? it damn sure wasn't margarito was it?

floyd made all of those claims you posted before he fought shane----did you sleep over those interviews or something? and i feel floyd will still sign just to shut everybody up and increase his income while easily beating manny up in the process----

Of course PPV will be better in fighting mosley than of clottey. 24/7 helped a whole lot too. Pacquiao did not have that series , did he? as far as i know, he had a face off against clottey and that was it. Did mayweather have 24/7 on all those fights you mentioned. i think he did.

Need not to forget, when mayweather fought delahoya,,, it was the so called golden boy they wanted to see in that fight. And yes he had said he has to get a bigger purse if he beats mosley and deservingly so in my opinion. Because clottey barely has followers. That stadium was filled with pacquiao fans. Lets reverse the situations, do you think mayweather followers could get 50 thousand fans clamouring that stadium? i think not.

[pbftxrs316]

Of course PPV will be better in fighting mosley than of clottey. 24/7 helped a whole lot too. Pacquiao did not have that series , did he? as far as i know, he had a face off against clottey and that was it. Did mayweather have 24/7 on all those fights you mentioned. i think he did.

Need not to forget, when mayweather fought delahoya,,, it was the so called golden boy they wanted to see in that fight. And yes he had said he has to get a bigger purse if he beats mosley and deservingly so in my opinion. Because clottey barely has followers. That stadium was filled with pacquiao fans. Lets reverse the situations, do you think mayweather followers could get 50 thousand fans clamouring that stadium? i think not.

yes, i do strongly believe that----

and what's your excuse on mayweather and mosley outselling pacquaio and de la hoya and cotto?

[gapo]

yes, i do strongly believe that----

and what's your excuse on mayweather and mosley outselling pacquaio and de la hoya and cotto?

Against delahoya,,, resounding yes. Against cotto, mayweather has not fought cotto yet. Mayweather did not want anything to do with cotto up to this point remember?

[gapo]

Why is clottey even in this mix? lol

[gapo]

where did you go?

[pbftxrs316]

You & Floyd huh. You made it sound like you and him are the same person.

That's it though, a little less cheerleading and more objectivity without the Floyd Fan Club/Gang mentality, and you'll be alright in my book.

As far as Floyd goes, I got nothing against him, I'm simply following what I just preached above.

As far as the rest of your post, appreciate the sentiment.

the reason i said me and floyd is because you took shots at me for defending floyd, so it made it seem as if me defending him pissed you off----and as far as me being objective, i have been very objective when it comes to floyd---i'm actually giving facts about what's been going on, and i have not been cheerleading---you should know better than that-----

and i was okay in your book when your username was vladimir303, and i was defending floyd back then----how can you call what i'm doing, cheerleading, when i am giving nonstop facts about it? how can you call it cheerleading----i'm not calling floyd the greatest fighter ever---i never have, i never will until he does something to convince me otherwise-----answer this one for me if you would? do you bash all of the pacquaio fans for their posts and threads about why floyd sucks and all of that? at least i give decent arguments that you can't even deny----i'm giving facts, not just assumptions----and hate like manny fans give---

[gapo]

are you a mod here? then i'll just go away. lol

[King Ju-Ju]

I have a feeling that floyd will wait until the deadline is over. Then arum will get fed up and sign another contract. Then Floyd will blame Team Pacquiao that they are the one who didnt wait long enough for him.

What do you guys think floyd's excuse?

can totally see that happening. idk but floyd is gonna look real bad if he doesnt take the fight. mike wilbon ****ted on him 2day on pti. his rep is gonna take a huge hit.

[gapo]

can totally see that happening. idk but floyd is gonna look real bad if he doesnt take the fight. mike wilbon ****ted on him 2day on pti. his rep is gonna take a huge hit.

Thats OK with him, he is used to it and still talk smash when his next fight is up. Its been happening over and over again.

[cupocity303]

the reason i said me and floyd is because you took shots at me for defending floyd, so it made it seem as if me defending him pissed you off----and as far as me being objective, i have been very objective when it comes to floyd---i'm actually giving facts about what's been going on, and i have not been cheerleading---you should know better than that-----

1. If you don't wanna call it cheerleading, then I'm gonna call it Unconditional Love. When's the last time you made a thread that was remotely critical of Floyd about anything? Something? Can Floyd do any wrong?

2. I poke fun at loyal *******-ian fans even harder.

and i was okay in your book when your username was vladimir303, and i was defending floyd back then----how can you call what i'm doing, cheerleading, when i am giving nonstop facts about it? how can you call it cheerleading----i'm not calling floyd the greatest fighter ever---i never have, i never will until he does something to convince me otherwise-----answer this one for me if you would? do you bash all of the pacquaio fans for their posts and threads about why floyd sucks and all of that? at least i give decent arguments that you can't even deny----i'm giving facts, not just assumptions----and hate like manny fans give---

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Whether you give facts can't be denied is up to somebody else to decide, not you. Self-proclaiming to have all the facts & truths down, that cannot be challenged is the most arrogant self-defeating thing you can do, and kills the purpose of debate. You might even say, putting your foot in your mouth like that, you beat yourself and save the work from somebody else.

Sidenote, if I was some Floyd hater, would I put him at # 1 P4P in this little video I made: