Emanuel Steward: I Could Not Train A Man to Beat Wladimir Klitschko

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  • Madvillain
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    #31
    That's because you're an overrated trainer Manny.

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    • Check_hooks
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      #32
      hasnt wald gotted ktfo numerous time when vitali has never really lost a fight?

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      • Easy-E
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        #33
        Holyfield would impose his will on Wlad and beat him down. Lennox would outpoint him and likely stop him late. Bowe would be an interesting fight. Prime Tyson stops him inside 3.

        Id love to see Wlad vs Vitali though.

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          #34
          Originally posted by badnewsbrown
          manny please! all those fighters in their primes would have beaten wlad. the guy is just too basic and too robotic. holyfield, tyson, lewis, bowe etc would have all beaten this guy...
          There is no logical way to argue that Holyfield would beat Wlad. What super-heavy did Holyfield truly beat? Did Holy have KO power? no. Did Holy take a ton of shots? yes. He struggled with fat old Foreman. And Wlad would have a better jab, which Holy would want to trade with Wlad and Wlad would win that every time. Sorry, Wlad is like built to beat Holyfield.

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          • sunny31
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            #35
            Originally posted by TheMagicMan
            There is no logical way to argue that Holyfield would beat Wlad. What super-heavy did Holyfield truly beat? Did Holy have KO power? no. Did Holy take a ton of shots? yes. He struggled with fat old Foreman. And Wlad would have a better jab, which Holy would want to trade with Wlad and Wlad would win that every time. Sorry, Wlad is like built to beat Holyfield.
            Holyfield doesn't have what you would call ko power but he certainly had enough to ko wlad at any point in the fight, holyfield beat a lot of good fighters and even in defeat it was close decisions against bowe and lewis. I can throw that right back at you, who has wlad ever beat???? The heavyweight division is a joke, anyone who has watched boxing for more than 5 years should realise this. Yes holyfield would take some jabs but he is far from a stationary target, he had a good guard, good head movment, used his shoulders well, and was an extremely dirty fighter, he would have taken wlad in deep water, and in my opinion drowned him. If wlad had vitali's chin, then that is a different story, but we know he can be hurt by less than big punchers, and mediocre fighters, we know he has no inside game, and that was holyfiled's game. We don't know if wlad can dominate a top heavyweight because he has NEVER fought one, and until he does I will never be convinced he can compete with the best of the best, he has great ability I have never doubted that, you say he was built to beat holyfield, but how can you possibly justify that when he has never even beaten anyone that is even considered world class???

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            • nomadman
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              #36
              Originally posted by badnewsbrown
              manny please! all those fighters in their primes would have beaten wlad. the guy is just too basic and too robotic. holyfield, tyson, lewis, bowe etc would have all beaten this guy...
              See this type of **** pisses me off no end. Why is it whenever Wlad's name is brought up someone always mentions how "robotic" he is? Wlad's actually one of the smartest and subtlest fighters in the sport. If he was robotic someone would have figured him out by now. Want to see a robotic fighter, look at Mosley, who does the same **** over and over again in fights.

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              • nomadman
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                #37
                Originally posted by Big Dunn
                Train Sam Peter. He can do it.
                I actually agree with another poster who said that Peter's underrated as a fighter but no way does he come close to emulating what he did in the first fight, not with this version of Wlad. He'd be clinched to buggery and UD'd again.

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                  #38
                  Guy with a glass chin can always lose somehow......

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
                    Yep, Wlad destroys any version of Tyson and Holyfield, too small with not enough reach. Bowe, prime, has a punchers chance but that is it.
                    I highly doubt he destroys Mike or Evander, and would definitely give both men very good shots, espeically Mike if he targets the body early on. Bowe I've never been overly impressed with, ok jab but sloppy right hand, and too much of a tendency to get dragged into brawls. Also (and you can bring up the "Bowe wasn't prime" excuse here) but on one of the few times he ever fought a quality opponent his own size who could jab him back he got the crap beaten out of him. Twice.

                    Wlad's fought several men as big (and heavier) than him, and had little trouble beating them.

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                    • mushahadeen
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                      #40
                      Note that Steward said "man", that's his careful way of not including JCC Jr. since JCC Jr. is more machine than man.

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