NSB: Help me make our top ten pound for pound list.

[SlickTurtle]

So does anyone have JMM at anything but number 3?

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr
3. Sergio Martinez
4. Chad Dawson
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
6. Paul Williams
7. Andre Ward
8. Nonito Donaire
9. Fernando Montiel
10. Lucian Bute

My list

[Rabbit ♠]

I wouldn't have Marquez or Mosley in there for a start.

Okay. I'm keeping tabs. I have a feeling most wouldn't have JMM at number 3. We'll see about Mosley. Who would you have enter the list if those two come off?

[Rabbit ♠]

So far I see that Bute and Ward should be on the list

[Cherry Picker]

Okay. I'm keeping tabs. I have a feeling most wouldn't have JMM at number 3. We'll see about Mosley. Who would you have enter the list if those two come off?

Ward and Bute probably.

[Rabbit ♠]

Ward and Bute probably.

Cool. You're the 3rd person to say that.. What do you think of Caballero on the list?

[Rabbit ♠]

1st edit. Ward added. We'll debate his place later but it seems people have him on their lists.

[Rabbit ♠]

Who else besides Ward needs to be on the list? I'm hearing Bute? If so, who comes off?

[S.G.]

This is all opinion based and not to be taken seriously. Just something for anyone who's bored. It might stir up some good debates, who knows?. I'll try my best to update this list the best I can. What I want to do is pick apart RING's list with your help. I won't be able to please everyone so I'll just go off of the general consensus of this thread. Here is your list so far:



1. Manny Pacquiao

2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

3. Juan Manuel Marquez

4. Nonito Donaire

5. Shane Mosley

6. Chad Dawson

7. Paul Williams

8. Sergio Martinez

9. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam

10. Andre Ward

Here's who I'd say are the 10 best in the sport right now:

1. Floyd Mayweather Jnr.
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Paul Williams
4. Sergio Martinez
5. Chad Dawson
6. Fernando Montiel
7. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
8. Andre Ward
9. Andre Dirrell
10. Timothy Bradley

As you can see a disagree with The Ring on almost everything, so I'll just elaborate on a few of the major points.

- Mayweather above Pacquiao. I felt his victory over previous P4P #3, Shane Mosley, was impressive and dominant enough to warrant this reclamation. "Reclamation" being the key word there, as opposed to say "overthrow" or something more forceful like that. Semantic, yeah, but it's all subjective so fuck it.

- No Marquez. P4P lists should stay au courant and relevent in my view, and it's been over a year since JMM looked like a pound-for-pounder. And his next step is to rematch the guy he already smashed - that will not reinforce his claim by much.

- No Donaire. What the hell has this guy done since flattening Darch to deserve a spot in the top ten, let alone top five!? Note: I haven't seen the recent Marquez fight yet, but even so, the guy's hardly a king maker is he?

- Paul Williams so high + above Sergio. Sergio has proven to be a legit pound-for-pound worthy star recently, and Williams beat him (it was close, but he did win). Nuff said. Who's done anything better than that lately?

[DR.ORGYY]

So does anyone have JMM at anything but number 3?

na #3 should be sergio martinez imo......

[jpunieves]

This is all opinion based and not to be taken seriously. Just something for anyone who's bored. It might stir up some good debates, who knows?. I'll try my best to update this list the best I can. What I want to do is pick apart RING's list with your help. I won't be able to please everyone so I'll just go off of the general consensus of this thread. Here is your list so far:



1. Manny Pacquiao

2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

3. Juan Manuel Marquez

4. Nonito Donaire

5. Shane Mosley

6. Chad Dawson

7. Paul Williams

8. Sergio Martinez

9. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam

10. Andre Ward

there's mosley and no cotto?