Horus Presents: WHY is Team Pacquiao making getting 50% a STICKING POINT!!!

[megadeth]

no it was when floyd grew a vagina and asked for OST that held the fight. easy work he says, then when his number is up, err..uhmmm.. take some tests pac..

this 60-40 posing by floyd is a smokescreen to hide his vagina, and horus' not getting it.

Did u make the same comment when Pac asked for 10million per lb over the weight? Does Pac have that same vagina?? Only difference is that floyd agreed to it and pac didn...oops, wait a min, Pac DID agree, but changed his mind many times. OOpps! "We need 3 day...no 5 days....no 30 days....ok..24 days! NO WAY, we wont go 14 days, we will lose to many days of training!!" Hahaha...

[Tamis!]

My problem is that Team Pacquiao insistence on 50% as a sticking point is holding the fight up. Thats why it matters.

In my opinion, we have to now ask The question

On what grounds do they believe they are an equal to Mayweather when it comes to financial considerations?

And by extension are Team Pacquiao, by asking for 50% effectively not just pricing themselves out of a fight with Floyd Mayweather, but also telling the Public they do not know how to count???

Sorry can't help you with YOUR PROBLEM and it seems it's too big it's eating you hence you made this thread!

I've said it time and again that whoever is the bigger draw in terms of PPV, Mayweather clearly that is.

But what does Pacquiao bring to the table?

Well, that is being someone worthy of an opponent for his money persona, something Mayweather won't get with any dance partner alive today!

Don't ask me further, it's an intangible which is immeasurable, but clearly seen by anyone with a brain as a necessity to make the fight happen, and that IMO is something what Team Pacquiao holds on to as bargaining a 50/50.

This thread of yours takes a crap outta your thread asking Pacquiao to retire LOL at the parody!

[jayblack]

easy. pac-cotto vs floyd-mosley. cotto has his puertorican fanbase, mosley is know for the longest time since the 90s, even a casual fan would know him. similar opponent fanbase, similar ppvs.

Really? Cotto and Mosley's PPVs please.

[Horus]

I agree. My problem with the many(not all) is that they see this and close their eyes to it. They will make every subjective argument for the 50-50 and Ignore the facts. Pac say 50-50 or no fight and his minions say

But w/FMJ, if he doesn't accept the 14days now(even though pac orginally agreed to FULL OSDT), he is a duck and a coward. Now that doesn't sound very even handed, now does it?

My main problem is Pacquiao Lack of Flexibility on the purse split.

I want to see this FIGHT more than anybody, but By team Pacquiao making 50% a sticking point, they are effectively letting us boxing fans know, they have no interest in this fight, unless they can receive money by all measures they have no merit to earn or be rewarded with, when they have a possible opponent who has undisputable claim backed by facts that they deserves more financial consideration based on what the facts tell us.

Why are they making 50% a sticking point??
when they have no numbers to back it up...

Man this is crazy.

[Twako]

No he wouldnt. He would have had no more than 2 fights in 2008 and he came back in 2009. So he would have at most had 10 ppv's right now.
But it doesnt matter because in his 7 PPv's he has still generated more than Pacquiao's 12 PPV's.

Pacquiao's 12 pay-per-view fights
6.25 million buys and $320 million
June 2008: Pacquiao vs. David Diaz 250k PPV = $12.5 Million
Dec 2008: Pacquiao vs. De la Hoya 1.25M PPV= $70 Million
May 2009: Pacquaio vs. Ricky Hatton 800k PPV= $43 Million
Nov 2009: Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto 1.25 M PPV = $68 Million
Mar 2010: Pacquiao vs. Joshua Clottey 700k PPV= $35 Million

other ppv:
Pacquaio vs. Morales 350,000 PPV
Pacquiao vs. Morales II- 355,000 buys
PACQUIAO vs. BARRERA 350,000 PPV
Pacquaio vs. Marquez I 360,000 PPV
Pacquaio vs. MarquezII 400,000 buys

Mayweather 7 Pay Per View Fights
6.9 Million Buys and $342 Million

June 2005 Mayweather vs. Arturo Gatti 365k= $16.5 million
Apr. 2006 Mayweather vs. Zab Judah 375k = $ $16.8 million
Sep 2006 Mayweather vs. Carlos Baldomir 325k = $16.3 Million
May 2007 Mayweather vs. De la Hoya 2.44M=$136.6 Million
Dec 2007 Mayweather vs. Ricky Hatton 920k=$50 Million
Sep 2009 Mayweather vs. Juan Manuel Marquz 1.1M=$52 Million
May 2010 Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley 1.4M=78.3 Million

again horus, this is where all *****s fail. these are all numbers, not complete facts. the complete fact is, ppvs in the lower weights in history has never been high. but pacs fight w/ mab/em/jmm were record breakers in the lower weights. FACT.

ppl or casual fans tend to buy ppvs in the higher weights in the history of boxing. FACT.

[Tamis!]

Ok, I get it, you think that 50-50 is fair. Now back it up with a logical, factual argument based on the previous revenue generated each fighter. Anyone that can count can backup why FMJ deserves MORE THAN 50%. Can u back up why Pac's 50%??

i'll wait for this to get replied too.

I have a feeling we both have a long wait ahead my friend.
Pass the butter please!

OK guys let me say it again although it's a form of a question but:

Is there anyone out there who can generate the richest and biggest superfight ever for Floyd?

That's right folks, no one but Manny Pacquiao!

There goes the 50% IMO!

[jayblack]

Sorry can't help you with YOUR PROBLEM and it seems it's too big it's eating you hence you made this thread!

I've said it time and again that whoever is the bigger draw in terms of PPV, Mayweather clearly that is.

But what does Pacquiao bring to the table?

Well, that is being someone worthy of an opponent for his money persona, something Mayweather won't get with any dance partner alive today!

Don't ask me further, it's an intangible which is immeasurable, but clearly seen by anyone with a brain as a necessity to make the fight happen, and that IMO is something what Team Pacquiao holds on to as bargaining a 50/50.

This thread of yours takes a crap outta your thread asking Pacquiao to retire LOL at the parody!

Everyone who Mayweather could potentially face is hyped up to have the skills to beat him. And after the fight it's always an excuse as to why they loss. Pac is an exceptional fighter, but he's not on Mayweather's level. People hype Pac up because of his style. People hype Mayweather because of his skill.

[Horus]

Sorry can't help you with YOUR PROBLEM and it seems it's too big it's eating you hence you made this thread!

I've said it time and again that whoever is the bigger draw in terms of PPV, Mayweather clearly that is.

But what does Pacquiao bring to the table?

Well, that is being someone worthy of an opponent for his money persona, something Mayweather won't get with any dance partner alive today!

Don't ask me further, it's an intangible which is immeasurable, but clearly seen by anyone with a brain as a necessity to make the fight happen, and that IMO is something what Team Pacquiao holds on to as bargaining a 50/50.

This thread of yours takes a crap outta your thread asking Pacquiao to retire LOL at the parody!

But why are they Making 50% a sticking point. when 40%,45%,50%,47% would still get them their biggest payday ever????

What is the logic behind 50/50???

If they were truly equal in terms of finances. then there would not big a big difference in the money they generate and the splits the annually recieved.

Explained to me How
Mayweather Highest Guaranteed Purse is: $ 22.5 Million
and
Mayweather Average Guaranteed Purse for his Past 6 Fights: $11 Million

and by contrast.

Pacquiao Highest Guaranteed Purses: $12 Million
and
Pacquiao Average Guaranteed Purse for his Past 6 Fights: $ 7.16 Million


BUT THEIR EQUAL???

[Tamis!]

The thread question can be answered by anyone who think if this is the biggest fight of our generation and no one between these two divas can create and obtain much without each other!

FLoyd fans know the answer very well, the answer's just not acceptable because it's not measurable by anything tangible such as PPV, but what's at stake and who's involved. And sadly for them, that guy is Manny Pacquiao, and that name alone is, for them, unacceptable to death!

Damn stans!

[jasbar]

Don't be ****** Horus, GBP is also Pac's promotor and will take 10 % from Pac, so Pac will only be getting 40 %. Pac has 2 promoters to feed so 50-50 is fair enough.