Is there a significant benefit for boxers to roid up 14 days before a fight?

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  • MindBat
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    #141
    Floyd did not make up the USADA "rules". USADA simply and clearly do not believe in nor will they entertain "cut-off" dates.

    Is that so difficult to understand?

    Isn't it better to address that question to a USADA representative and get a straight answer from the source?

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    • AFighter4U
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      #142
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Terrible. Youtube "Manny Pacquiao Brian Kenny" interview. Done in January, he is wearing a Cowboys jersey. Unfortunately my youtube is blocked at work but if, for some strange reason, you can't "find it" or "can't be bothered" then let me know and I will work overtime for you.
      He said that he was into "heavy" training. But you said he was into and i quote you "very intense training". Here's where you said/typed it.



      Seems to me here that YOU are the one lying here. There's a BIG difference between "heavy" training and "very intense training".

      You are so quick to label someone a lier, yet you fail your very own standards of truth.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #143
        Originally posted by AFighter4U
        He said that he was into "heavy" training. But you said he was into and i quote you "very intense training". Here's where you said/typed it.



        Seems to me here that YOU are the one lying here. There's a BIG difference between "heavy" training and "very intense training".

        You are so quite to label someone a lier, yet you fail your very own standards of truth.
        So he said he is into heavy training 14 days out. Do you believe him?

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        • AFighter4U
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          #144
          Originally posted by MindBat
          Floyd did not make up the USADA "rules". USADA simply and clearly do not believe in nor will they entertain "cut-off" dates.

          Is that so difficult to understand?

          Isn't it better to address that question to a USADA representative and get a straight answer from the source?
          They certainly entertained it when floyd jr. conceded the 14 days cut-off.

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          • Vadrigar.
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            #145
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            See the video re: Pac-Clottey w/ Brian Kenny for Manny's comments.
            I asked you to quote me the comments from both people. I cant watch the videos.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #146
              Originally posted by -D33Pwaters-
              Disingenuous.

              I asked you to quote me the comments from both people. I cant watch the videos.
              Neither can I. Essentially, Manny says he can't have his blood tested 14 days out because he's doing "HEAVY training." You read what Roach said.

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                #147
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                Neither can I. Essentially, Manny says he can't have his blood tested 14 days out because he's doing "HEAVY training." You read what Roach said.
                At what date was this interview conducted?

                BTW direct to the page, so I can read what roach said.

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                • AFighter4U
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  So he said he is into heavy training 14 days out. Do you believe him?
                  Yes i do. Because before that, he's into "intense" training.

                  Here's a question for you.

                  Were you lying when you attributed to Manny having "very intense training" (your own words) when you knew fully well after viewing the video before i did that Pac only said he was into "heavy" training?

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by -D33Pwaters-
                    At what date was this interview conducted?

                    BTW direct to the page, so I can read what roach said.
                    The Roach comment was linked by someone else - feel free to use your hands and figure out when. The Pacquiao interview was done the day of the Clottey bout announcement.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by AFighter4U
                      Yes i do. Because before that, he's into "intense" training.

                      Here's a question for you.

                      Were you lying when you attributed to Manny having "very intense training" (your own words) when you knew fully well after viewing the video before i did that Pac only said he was into "heavy" training?
                      I don't differentiate between very intense and heavy. Both are beyond the norm. What is the difference? Exactly.

                      Second. So you believe him when he says he is doing heavy training two weeks out. This negates your idea that certain PEDs wouldn't be effective with a 14 day cutoff because it requires "intense" training.

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