Name One Top Class Fighter Jones Ever Faced

[ProBox1]

How can you say the IBF deal had nothing to do with corruption? DM was ordered by the IBF to fight Gutherie within 30 days of his win over Hill.

What does that have to do with corruption? He was asked to fight a mandatory who "won a lawsuit" in order to get that fight, the IBF's hands were tied. If DM really wanted to keep the belt, if he was really that good, he would have fought the guy instead of dropping the belt.

Champions are stripped every month for not fighting mandatories and it has nothing to do with corruption. Winky Wright was just stripped of two belts for fighting Mosley instead of two guys that were waiting in line for title shots.

[J !]

Morales also ditched his IBF belt, what we do face however is a bad case of double standards in many situations, there are so many belts now that it is virtually impossible to keep all of the belts at the same time asa unified champ. I mean if you have four different mandatory contenders thats a lot of fighting to do! Hey but like the 30-40s perhaps we shold do that then
In seriousness its almost impossible for the guys to hold all the titles due to the politics, however we have exception to the rule.

The WBC usually strip a champ if they hold the WBO belt, thats a policy right? So how is Nard keeping hold of all the titles? Simple WBC are skint after their recent less than savoury court incident, and Nard hold the key to big money and sanctioning fees.

Hence they wont enforce their own policy.

Hypocrisy? certainly! Corrupt? possibly.

[Neuraxis]

What does that have to do with corruption? He was asked to fight a mandatory who "won a lawsuit" in order to get that fight, the IBF's hands were tied. If DM really wanted to keep the belt, if he was really that good, he would have fought the guy instead of dropping the belt.

Champions are stripped every month for not fighting mandatories and it has nothing to do with corruption. Winky Wright was just stripped of two belts for fighting Mosley instead of two guys that were waiting in line for title shots.

So you are telling me that this happens all the time? Fighters having to fight mandatories within 30 days of winning their major belts. So you are telling me after his fight with Hill that you wanted him to fight Guthrie within 30 days of that fight? I would really like to see you hold Roy Jones Jr. to such high standards. There was nothing about Winky Wright having to fight mandatories within 30 days of winning his belts. You also didn't address his gift decisions or Roy Jones Jr. and the WBC belt.

[Neuraxis]

I didnt answer cause you once again assumed wrong; I DONT like this thread so much. Thank you
And, when Rick Reeno tried to debate it with you, the man who is paid to know his "stuff" all you did was argue back, etc..
Let me just say that Rick knows more about boxing that I can hope to learn; so what would be the point in a less-educated fan even trying??

Never assume anything because you only make an...well I think you know the rest.

[tracylee]

Never assume anything because you only make an...well I think you know the rest.

YOU are telling ME that?

[Neuraxis]

YOU are telling ME that?

Nevermind I guess you don't know the joke.

[RJj1fan]

actually those were the ones i would have picked too. but ruiz didn't stand a chance. don't get me wrong i'm not a ruiz fan but he was robbed by the ref. nady broke it up when ruiz got in close enough to do some damage. like hug.

Robbed by the ref? Where were you when they went over boxing rules? When did holding every 30 seconds become legal? Nady did the right thing by not letting Ruiz cheat in this fight as he as in his previous fights.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

Actually you can't argue who the linear champ was.

Shannon Briggs was the linear champ at heavyweight. The best fighter in the division isn't always "linear." Dariusz and RJJ were 1 and 2 in the division. Bottom line is they should've fought and both of them wasted our time talking about fighting rather than making their fight happen. I depise them both for it.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

Corrupt sanctioning bodies. DM beat Hill for the IBF and WBA belts, both were stripped from him. Then he beat Rocchigiani for the WBC belt after the WBC had stripped him and given the belt to Roy without him having to fight for it. And I'm not sure what his gift decisions were. He had one decision win over Hill, 117-112, 116-113, 118-110 from 1997-2003

A corrupt sanctioning body allowed Dariusz to have WBO title defenses vs. the likes of Joey DeGrandis, Ali Ennebati and RJJ leftovers Richard Hall and Derrick Harmon. They also allowed RJJ to have defenses vs. Otis Grant, Rick Frazier, etc

If your defense of Dariusz is predicated on "corrupt sanctioning bodies," that's the pot calling the kettle black. Find another way to make your point. Both of them were able to duck each other because their corrupt sanctioning bodies wouldn't rank the other champ to make him a mandatory.

[Neuraxis]

A corrupt sanctioning body allowed Dariusz to have WBO title defenses vs. the likes of Joey DeGrandis, Ali Ennebati and RJJ leftovers Richard Hall and Derrick Harmon. They also allowed RJJ to have defenses vs. Otis Grant, Rick Frazier, etc

If your defense of Dariusz is predicated on "corrupt sanctioning bodies," that's the pot calling the kettle black. Find another way to make your point. Both of them were able to duck each other because their corrupt sanctioning bodies wouldn't rank the other champ to make him a mandatory.

Regardless DM had the WBO catering to him, while RJJ had every other major and minor belt catering to his every want and need.