Name One Top Class Fighter Jones Ever Faced

[rsl]

Roy Jones fought two legit world class fighters Hopkins and Toney thats it

McCallum and Viril Hill were both very well shot by the time Roy Fought them. Vinny Paz's was a former lightweight who Roy fought at 168.

Roy fought some solid guys(Gonzales, Griffin, Johnson) but no one of any real worth.

dont forget while talking about Roy's competion you also have to throw in the joke fights he had. Guys like Otis Grant, Rick Frazier, David Telesco and Glen Kelly in that list you have a school teacher, a cop and a garbage man. There is just no excuse for a p4p fighter to taking on such garbage competion and save me the madatories bull****.

The list of guys Roy could have fought but never did is 10x more impressive than the list of guys he actually fought.

Julian Jackson
Gerald McClelan
Micheal Nunn
Chris Eubank
Nigel Benn
Frankie Liles(who knocked Roy out in the amatures)
Dariusz Michalczewski
Vasilly Jirov(Roy pulled out)
Lennox Lewis or Vitali, Roy instead chose to fight Jon Ruiz.

Good point, but If I'm not mistaken Darius Michalczewski, Chris Eubank, and Nigel Benn were all Europeans, who probably would not have agreed to fight in America and we all know where Roy stands in fighting overseas, but I see where Jones Jr. is paranoid about the whole idea of fighting in another country, he in my eyes suffered the worse robbery in all of boxing and that was in the '88 olympics. As far as RJ fighting Lennox it would've never happened cause Jones Jr. don't want no part of Lennox, Vassily Jirov too risky not enough money, and Gerald Mclellan aren't him and Roy buddies, I think it was more of Michael Nunn ducking Roy, and I don't know much of Julian Jackson and Frankie Liles as to why they never crossed paths with RJJ.

[Neuraxis]

Jones was the champ. He only had to agree to 75/25 purse split. 70/30 was MORE than generous for a guy nobody here had heard of.

Jones beat Gonzales. so what's your point there? That made no sense. Yes, Jones is obviously done now. How did Jones duck Rocchigiani? Get real, you try to make it sound like that bum was anything. He was the one who didn't want to fight Jones after Jones had the title. He didn't even fairly win the title anyhow. And he was a ****** for sueing the WBC over it. I don't support the WBC, but if I were them, I'd tell Rocchigiani to go **** himself too.

Well Gonzalez beat DM and he has been going to downhill for a year or so. The point is if you are going to count DM's loss to Gonzalez, you have to also count Roy's humiliating losses to Tarver and Johnson. Alright you obviously know nothing about boxing if you think that Rocchigiani didn't fairly win the title.

[Neuraxis]

Toney was robbed in both Griffin bouts, even a blind man could see the poor decision in the second of their two fights.

The bottom line with Roy Jones Jr. is this, people can say what they want but the man won titles in 4 different weight classes. He has a set ticket for the hall of fame and has been rated the number one fighter in the world for several years, up until the loss to Antonio Tarver. He began his career at 154 and won his last title at heavyweight, something that wasnt accomplished in over 100 years.

Jones beat Hopkins who has not been beat since. He beat Ruiz who has not been beat since. He dominated Toney and Toney has not been dominated in any of his other losses. Forget the established names on his resume, he took on and beat many undefeated fighters from 160-175.

As far as him ducking DM, DM was never anything to duck. He had more then his share of gift decisions and was terrified to leave Germany. Jones was one of the biggest names in the boxing world with seven light heavyweight titles and DM wanted Jones to travel to Germany in order to make the fight. Jones was the champion, Jones had all the titles and Jones brought the money to the table, who hell was DM to command where and when the fight should take place. Only a handful of people even knew who DM was outside of Germany. After everything is said and done, DM never did accomplished anything to brag about in his career other then holding the WBO's version of the light heavyweight title hostage in Germany. Jirov was willing to fight DM in Germany, at 190 and DM demanded an amount of money that no promoter would be able to come up with for that fight.

Once again we are only talking light heavyweight here. You aren't going to get any argument from me about how great RJJ was at super middleweight and middleweight. Jones accomplishments at other weight classes and DM refusing to fight Jirov have no place in this argument. Like I have said before DM's style would never have allowed him to be any good at higher weight classes. How many of those titles belonged to DM? Let's see the WBA, the IBF, and the WBC. So every single belt legitamently belonged to DM and not RJJ and DM was the linear champ as well.

[ProBox1]

Once again we are only talking light heavyweight here. You aren't going to get any argument from me about how great RJJ was at super middleweight and middleweight. Jones accomplishments at other weight classes and DM refusing to fight Jirov have no place in this argument. Like I have said before DM's style would never have allowed him to be any good at higher weight classes. How many of those titles belonged to DM? Let's see the WBA, the IBF, and the WBC. So every single belt legitamently belonged to DM and not RJJ and DM was the linear champ as well.

I dont know how DM owned any of those belts. Jones beat McCallum for the WBC, Delvale (spelling) for the WBA and Johnson for the IBF to unify the division.

[Neuraxis]

I dont know how DM owned any of those belts. Jones beat McCallum for the WBC, Delvale (spelling) for the WBA and Johnson for the IBF to unify the division.

Corrupt sanctioning bodies. DM beat Hill for the IBF and WBA belts, both were stripped from him. Then he beat Rocchigiani for the WBC belt after the WBC had stripped him and given the belt to Roy without him having to fight for it. And I'm not sure what his gift decisions were. He had one decision win over Hill, 117-112, 116-113, 118-110 from 1997-2003

[ProBox1]

Corrupt sanctioning bodies. DM beat Hill for the IBF and WBA belts, both were stripped from him. Then he beat Rocchigiani for the WBC belt after the WBC had stripped him and given the belt to Roy without him having to fight for it. And I'm not sure what his gift decisions were. He had one decision win over Hill, 117-112, 116-113, 118-110 from 1997-2003

That had nothing to do with corruption, there was a beef with the sanctioning bodies. DM had a choice to keep the WBA or the WBO, he kept the WBO and was stripped of the WBA. He voluntarily dropped the IBF due to a whole other issue involved with a lawsuit.

[WillieW]

Michael Nunn, Dariusz Michalczewski, Graciano Rocchigiani, Vassiliy Jirov, Corrie Sanders, and Buster Douglas.

Corrie Sanders and Buster Doughlas? Er, they are Heavy Weights. Douglas was a name when Jones was a Middlewieght. Lets keep this in the realm of possibility and reason. Its like saying if Pac is soo good, why dosen't he challenge Spinks? There is a reason people applude Jones for beating Ruiz (I, for one, don't) its because he is small, even for a Lt Heavy.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

Roy Jones and Dariusz blew it. They were the two best light heavies. You can argue who was linear, who should've fought on whose turft, etc. and everyone has a legitimate point.

BUT, the fact is they didn't make the fight happen. They could've easily had this fight in some place other than Germany or the USA as a compromise. Did they even try? No.

Jones and Dariusz are passe. They're old news. They've both been beaten. They missed their chance. F!ck them both. Tarver KTFOs both of them on the same night and I don't think Tarver is all that special.

[The Fix]

Roy Jones and Dariusz blew it. They were the two best light heavies. You can argue who was linear, who should've fought on whose turft, etc. and everyone has a legitimate point.

BUT, the fact is they didn't make the fight happen. They could've easily had this fight in some place other than Germany or the USA as a compromise. Did they even try? No.

Jones and Dariusz are passe. They're old news. They've both been beaten. They missed their chance. F!ck them both. Tarver KTFOs both of them on the same night and I don't think Tarver is all that special.

yeah they have both been beaten but they couldnt be on top forever. thats like you being on top of a women forever(or 3 minutes) because she would sufficate and all the bones in her body would be crushed.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

yeah they have both been beaten but they couldnt be on top forever. thats like you being on top of a women forever(or 3 minutes) because she would sufficate and all the bones in her body would be crushed.

When you're healthy like me, it takes more than one woman to satisfy me. So being that I'm a player I get 2 or 3 at a time. you wouldn't understand that because you're a hater