Name One Top Class Fighter Jones Ever Faced

[JUYJUY]

Heard of Marty Jakubowski??

Never heard of him, why?

[JUYJUY]

How can you call me biased when I'm telling the TRUTH about the myth of Roy Jones?

He didn't have a strong enough chin to mix it with the big boys, so he picked his opponents very carefully. Remember that he never was the WBC champion at 160 or 168, at that time it was McClellan and Benn. He never won the WBC title at 175 either, it was Michalczewski's title.

and Lennox Lewis was the WBC champ at heavyweight, not John ****ing Ruiz!

[jabsRstiff]

"He didn't have a strong enough to mix it with the big boys, so he picked his opponents very carefully. Remember that he never was the WBC champion at 160 or 168, at that time it was McClellan and Benn. He never won the WBC title at 175 either, it was Michalczewski's title"

What makes what you said nonsense is that Roy fought James Toney at 168.

If you were following boxing then, you'd remember that while at 168, James Toney had become the sport's #1 or #2 fighter in the lb4lb rankings.
Yet, Roy went up to 168 & fought him. He didn't fear Toney.....but he did Benn & Eubank ?

[JUYJUY]

I meant to say that he didn't have a strong enough chin to mix it with the big boys.

[JUYJUY]

If you were following boxing then, you'd remember that while at 168, James Toney had become the sport's #1 or #2 fighter in the lb4lb rankings.

No that's bull****. It was while at 160 that Toney became #2 ranked P4P behind Whitaker, he was never ranked #1 P4P. When Toney beat Nunn and McCallum at 160, he got in at #2 P4P.

Benn and Eubank were #1 and #2 at 168 before Toney moved up and got the #1 spot automatically (due to being #1 at 160 before moving up, and #2 P4P). But Toney was on the slide at 168 and only just about hanging in there, he was losing form and it was only a matter time before he had his big mouth shut. You'll remember that many people thought Benn and Eubank would beat him, but Don King forgot to put a clause in the contract for a draw in the Benn-Eubank unification clash (Toney was guaranteed to face the winner to prove his critics wrong). At 168, Benn and Eubank would of beat Toney. At 160, Toney would of probably beat them.

Let's be brutally honest here, Toney would of boxed Roy's head off at 160. In the early 90's when he was younger, Toney was the ****. But he was on the slide before he fought Jones Jr, he weighed 212lbs 6 weeks before the fight! Toney was weight-drained against Roy FFS. Jones Jr had only just moved up to 168 so he was comfortable at his new weight at the time. Eubank would of gave Roy fits due to his strange style. Also, Roy never fought anybody who came at him and Benn would of done just that.

By the way, Whitaker was #1 at the time and Gerald McClellan had got in at #2 P4P after beating Jackson in 90 seconds. Toney was #3 P4P at the time of fighting Jones Jr. When Jones Jr beat him, he went straight upto #1 P4P. But if McClellan had beaten Benn, I think McClellan would of got in ahead of Roy again P4P.

[jabsRstiff]

You are so wrong, it's unbelievable.

James Toney became the Ring magazine's #1 lb4lb fighter (over Whitaker) after he KO'd Prince Charles Williams. This after KO'ing Tim Littles & Iran Barkley.
Check the timelines, my friend......that was in '94...& Toney had beaten Barkley for the 168lb. crown in February of '93.

Toney was struggling at 160....wasn't being overly impressive in his last few fights there (McCallum II, Tiberi, Glenn Wolfe).

Also.....Gerald McClellan was NEVER ranked #2, lb4lb, by anyone

Now.....you're making **** up.

[jabsRstiff]

"When Toney beat Nunn and McCallum at 160, he got in at #2 P4P."

He beat/fought those guys in 1991.....Julio Cesar Chavez was still in his prime.
Whitaker & Chavez were the conscensus #1 & #2 fighters in the world then.

[The Fix]

How can you call me biased when I'm telling the TRUTH about the myth of Roy Jones?

He didn't have a strong enough chin to mix it with the big boys, so he picked his opponents very carefully. Remember that he never was the WBC champion at 160 or 168, at that time it was McClellan and Benn. He never won the WBC title at 175 either, it was Michalczewski's title.

this is a pic of jones at lightheavy....wearing the wbc title belt


you just making stuff up to help prove your point... roy jones was also awarded the first new wbc belt that had his picture on it...i could find the link if you want.

i've seen most of Jones Jr's fights, and most of Benn and Eubank's fights, and I can safely say that they'd of been Jones Jr's toughest fights without a doubt.

ok so you are saying they'd be tough fights for jones but jones would end up winning? if thats so why so much talk about benn and eubank.


also "the myth of roy jones" whats that about, look at all his accomplishments and tell me they are a myth. your so biased towards UK fighters because they could never do what jones did.... its pretty sad.

[!! Mr. Soprano]

I don't even know where to start.

1) Johnsosn DOES deserve all the credit in the world for his work ethic, but don't even try to convince me that he had the skills of an elite fighter. Cuz he don't. Why did he beat Jones? Because he worked a hell of a lot harder than RJJ that's it.

2) I don't even know where you guys get this boxing lesson crap. There was NO BOXING LESSON. You can't ****ing teach RJJ a boxing lesson. He just threw a hell of a lot more than RJJ SIMPLE! RJJ's punches we're precise and accurate. Johnson just swarmed RJJ with punches. Yeah he boxed smart, yeah he excecuted his plan well, but that's it!

3) Every ****ing boxer has SOME kind of power. He didn't KO RJJ cuz of his power. The punch hit the temple, that's the worst place you can get hit in the head. Softest part of yer skull.

4) The old RJJ would have moved and not stay in one ****ing place. He was lazy and ****y in this fight. And he got beat. His fault.

If you're gonna tell me that RJJ's career was made fighting buddies than can you name me another fighter that has had more accomplishments in fighting quality opponents in this era?
Listen man, to give Johnson credit for what he did is one thing, but to completely disregard RJJ's accomplishment's throughout his career is just ******. Anyway, where were the threads questioning RJJ's success before his 2 KO losses?

Well Put!

RJJ is an epitome of an ultimate fighter.
In boxing sooner or later everyone gets caught and you cannot take away his accomplishments.

[NAB]

How can you call me biased when I'm telling the TRUTH about the myth of Roy Jones?

He didn't have a strong enough chin to mix it with the big boys, so he picked his opponents very carefully. Remember that he never was the WBC champion at 160 or 168, at that time it was McClellan and Benn. He never won the WBC title at 175 either, it was Michalczewski's title.

Let's see. 88 posts, nearly every single one praising Chris Eubank.

No, you're not biased.

WBC was Michalczewski's? You sure about that?