Don't get it Twisted 3: Marquez made Pacquiao.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

no it wasn't :laugh:

You're right it did 350k I dont know why i remember seeing the BAD logo at the bottom of my screen.

[Dick Buffman]

PAC vs EM were not free tv...try again

how many buys did it "did"??



You don't have to answer because we know it wasn't what he did w/ JMM.

So yeah.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

how many buys did it "did"??



You don't have to answer because we know it wasn't what he did w/ JMM.

So yeah.

how many ppvs had JMM been in prior to that? go on....

[-MAKAVELLI-]

without PAC, JMM wouldn't even know what fighting in a ppv was like

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

The Empire Strikes back.

Fudgepacky was on the heels of a loss to Erik Morales, a couple of lackluster performances against the faded legend of Oscar Larios fighting 8 pounds and 8 years past his prime weight and a **** fight against a nobody called Jorge Solis in which he looked like ****.

Only to go on and look like a Mayweather/Dirrell clone in a pedestrian decision against Barrera.

Dinamita Marquez was the last barrier of the 3 Mexican Musketeros and Fudgepacky failed 2x.

In the first fight, in case any of you deluded fools don't understand boxing, when you score 3 kd's in one round and you end up with a DRIZZAW.. It means you lost the fucking fight.

In the second fight, well, I don't even need to explain that one because JMM established such masterful dominance that only hardcore *******s and PInoy gatekeepers like Fua and Mizzak can hallucinate that badly.

JMM cut FudgePacky's workrate in half and made him look like a punk ***** en route to busting his ass up for 12 rounds and making him look like an amateur 1-2 Slut.

To those who point to the Fudgester's so called "improvement" in subsequent fights may I point to the fact that Packy looked like a genius against David "****head" Diaz only a few months later when *******s of the world united in proclaiming FudgePacky Henry Armstrong Part Deux.

Can a fighter really "learn" a right hand in a matter of 2 months or is the reality that Robert Arumstein realized the folly of pitting the FudgePackster against anyone with any shred of boxing I.Q.

To ask the question is to answer it.

FudgePacky has been matched carefully against come forward fuck sluts post JMM 2 for precisely this reason. Especially if you have any kind of right hand, which is krypton fucking nite to the FudgePacker.

Packy needed JMM to prove that he could beat a Mexicano Musketero that wasn't involved in a 3 fight war that probably took 45% of their fighting capacity from each other.

Step in JMM. Where he got embarrassed.

But the same way styles make fights, sytles also make careers. The powers that be understand that JMM is better in every way except for the fact that his disposition is that of a counterpuncher.

Its easier to sell a whirlwind ****bag who always applies the offense like Fudge, than it is to sell a cerebral master of the sport like Dinamita. Therefore in the HBO scheme, Dinamita loses and FudgePacky wins.

Even though in real life, JMM owns FudgePacky.

In closing.

Fuck you Bigsby.

You can make throwaway lines against JMM about piss drinking but at least he's not a roided out midget who relies on careful matchmaking and shot and weight drained fighters to make his name.

On the contrary. The crazy bastard just jumped up 3 classes to fight a mother****er who didn't even bother making weight against him.

Nothing pirsonalr.

Where's that ****sucker Bigsby?

Goes to show you how quick a ******* turns on you.

I made this thread for heeem.

calmate wey pinche huero.



those 2 marquez wars have been passed over for more glorious glory in the boxing world with his wins vs oscar, hatton, cotto, & clottey. marquez is now just another golden footnote in pac's career.


marquez career is almost done. another desert casino rocky juarez joel casamayor 100k ppv esque dance with diaz & its off to a mexican nursing home reeking of urine & pollo mole.

[Dick Buffman]

without PAC, JMM wouldn't even know what fighting in a ppv was like

Without JMM, Pac wouldn't even know what fighting a prime fighter was like. Even though JMM was older than him.

Uh oh...

calmate wey pinche huero.



those 2 marquez wars have been passed over for more glorious glory in the boxing world with his wins vs oscar, hatton, cotto, & clottey. marquez is now just another golden footnote in pac's career.


marquez career is almost done. another desert casino rocky juarez joel casamayor 100k ppv esque dance with diaz & its off to a mexican nursing home reeking of urine & pollo mole.

Fights he easily wins. Just like he schooled Packy 2x.

Styles make fights, but styles also make careers. JMM got the short stick for being better and more cerebral.

The HBO powers understood that the dumbed down masses understood a primitive force like Packy better, since they themselves are illiterate.

Don't make Packy better, the same way Bush isn't better than Nader.

Bush is just easier for the ******'s to digest than the intelligent Nader who is out of their league.

Class is the name of this battle. One fighter has it, the other doesn't.

As you will see.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Without JMM, Pac wouldn't even know what fighting a prime fighter was like. Even though JMM was older than him.

Uh oh...


Fights he easily wins. Just like he schooled Packy 2x.

Styles make fights, but styles also make careers. JMM got the short stick for being better and more cerebral.

The HBO powers understood that the dumbed down masses understood a primitive force like Packy better, since they themselves are illiterate.

Don't make Packy better, the same way Bush isn't better than Nader.

Bush is just easier for the ******'s to digest than the intelligent Nader who is out of their league.

Class is the name of this battle. One fighter has it, the other doesn't.

As you will see.

translation: JMM is still 0-1-1



your downfall is having Milton as your running mate

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Without JMM, Pac wouldn't even know what fighting a prime fighter was like. Even though JMM was older than him.

Uh oh...


Fights he easily wins. Just like he schooled Packy 2x.

Styles make fights, but styles also make careers. JMM got the short stick for being better and more cerebral.

The HBO powers understood that the dumbed down masses understood a primitive force like Packy better, since they themselves are illiterate.

Don't make Packy better, the same way Bush isn't better than Nader.

Bush is just easier for the ******'s to digest than the intelligent Nader who is out of their league.

Class is the name of this battle. One fighter has it, the other doesn't.

As you will see.

if class is the name of this battle, then its time for you & marquez to trek back to mexico in dark tunnels.

class is not b*tching & whining that you got robbed in a classic, successful close fight twice. It would have been CLASSIER to take the high road, be a gentleman & a good sportman.

class is NOT traveling to the Philippines & stalking pacquiao like a jilted pissed on lover.

class is not quenching your thirst with urine jarritos.

class is a career featherweight not attempting a suicide mission at welterweight vs a welterweight former junior middleweight champ.

Manny is Majestic.

Marquez is Marginalized.

Pacman is saucy posh.

Dinamita is a bitter piss drinker clinger.


deal with it.

[VERDUGO]

Pacquiao made himself.

But It was the Barrera and Morales fight that put him on the map.
Nobody even knew who Marquez was til he fought Pacquiao.

[jrosales13]

If you really believe Oscar was gonna fight Cotto after ****ing around with Stevie Forbes, then I don't know what to tell you. He only took the Fudge fight cuz' he thought he'd be too big and it backfired on him. But that doesn't take away the fact that he dropped all that weight to do it. Pac could fight Floyd at 47', and Floyd could fight Oscar at 54' but Pac/Floyd will be at 47 and they're talking about another catchweight for Cotto.

Come on now.

Going by what Oscar said. Did Oscar not have it plan to go to 147 before Pac even came into the picture? Is a yes or no question Again it is to see in hindsight. But, going into the fight didn't it consider a very dangerous fight for Pac? Again is a yes or no question. In hindsight I can really diminish JMM resume.

lol, look at their ages man. Both were past 35 and both had tough ass fights before that.

Don't try to diminish that great win. Nobody ever did that to Casa before.

Nobody ever did to Oscar before either. Nobody ever did that to Hatton eeither, Nobody ever did that to Clottey either, nobody ever did that to David Diaz either. Not really trying to diminish but just saying in hindsight you cold diminish everything. And, that is exactly what you're doing.

Also age don't mean anything really...