Why request a 14 day cut off when...

[AllEyesOpen]

PAC is the fighter of the decade.

He sure is, a man who's faced all kinds of adversity in the ring, and has come out victorious. So why the big issue over a little bit of blood? I just can't figure that out.

[maguirre]

If the USADA choses to stop testing, without the fighters knowing, at any point, it would still be random testing, a concept few *******s understand. If Pacquiao or Mayweather chose when to stop testing, then i'm afraid it's not random. but i'm wasting my time, cause i don't think you have ever had a rational thought in your head, you just blindly hate Mayweather and lover Pacquiao. For ****s sake, you're the one who thinks Mayweather runs the USADA.

You're a *****. You can't be objective. And you don't expect normal people to take a ***** seriously, do you?

Point is, if that was Pac instead of Mosley, you'd be all over Tygart whose only concern is $$$$$$.

Anyway, I don't think that would happen again next time. 18 day cut off for Fraud is unacceptable. Period. Tygart was heavily criticized for such a biased, lousy job. So don't count on another 18 day cut off for Fraud's future fights. It will make Tygart look ****** and biased.

[AllEyesOpen]

You're a *****. You can't be objective. And you don't expect normal people to take a ***** seriously, do you?

Point is, if that was Pac instead of Mosley, you'd be all over Tygart whose only concern is $$$$$$.

Anyway, I don't think that would happen again next time. 18 day cut off for Fraud is unacceptable. Period. Tygart was heavily criticized for such a biased, lousy job. So don't count on another 18 day cut off for Fraud's future fights. It will make Tygart look ****** and biased.

I'm not being objective, yet your the one claiming that the USADA works for Mayweather and tests when he chooses. Fact is random, means they can test whenever they decide, so there's no promise that they will test 24 hours before or 5, 7 14, or even 18 days before the fight, as long as the fighters involved are having to expect that at any given moment they will be tested, the program is sound and effective. To think that the same program would change because ignorant people don't understand how it works is laughable.


Is it possible that they will test less then 14 days? Sure, that's the point. Do the have to do that to run an effective program? No. I figured the quote i have as my sig was pretty clear, but some people refuse to see the truth.

[maguirre]

You know, I don't blame Tygart for stopping at 18 days. I really don't. He is after all a human being who knows exactly the effects of these invasive tests. If you can't imagine two people about to beat each other in the ring and some dopes are waiting for them to perform these tests an hour before the fight...

No. I'll never understand people for such ferocious insistence on this thing. I guess extreme nuthugging makes people unreasonably ******.

Or extreme hatred or both.

And the thing is that they actually think that only Pacquiao will be affected. I love that one. LOL.

[AllEyesOpen]

You know, I don't blame Tygart for stopping at 18 days. I really don't. He is after all a human being who knows exactly the effects of these invasive tests. If you can't imagine two people about to beat each other in the ring and some dopes are waiting for them to perform these tests an hour before the fight...

No. I'll never understand people for such ferocious insistence on this thing. I guess extreme nuthugging makes people unreasonably ******.

I guess you prefer fighter risk their lives against a doped up opponent, as long as he's your favorite dope up fighter. Just a *******, far from a fan of the sport. I'm done wasting my time, you can't even come up with an argument for your irrational love of a fighter and everything he does.

[maguirre]

I have said my stand on this.

I had hoped Pacquiao would accept Queen Mayweather's so-called OST without cut-off. I don't believe only one will be affected.

Problem is, I want to see the fight. Pacquiao agrees to 14 days. If Floyd won't accept it. What then is a Pac fan's relevance?

****** *****s say Pac fans are covering for Pac. What effing morons.

[maguirre]

I have said my stand on this.

I had hoped Pacquiao would accept Queen Mayweather's so-called OST without cut-off. I don't believe only one will be affected.

Problem is, I want to see the fight. Pacquiao agrees to 14 days. If Floyd won't accept it. What then is a Pac fan's relevance?

****** *****s say Pac fans are covering for Pac. What effing morons.

Yes, I announced my stand in big bold letters hoping that Nathanielsz would relay this to Pac.

You know, I think they heard it loud and clear. Pac suddenly agrees to 14 days and just recently Roach is saying the same thing, which I assume the no cut-off max.

I repeat, don't assume that only one will be affected. That's a ****** assumption.

[led]

We already know that the USADA will stop testing well before that if there is no need to. May/Mosley had an 18 day cut off, except the fighter didn't know about, keeping the integrity of the random blood testing. So again, why the need for a guaranteed window, if you're clean and every test up until 3 weeks before the fight supports this, there will be no need to continue testing, but the option will be there in case any anomalies come up in the urine tests. This really shouldn't be an issue, at least IMHO and I still don't understand why it keeps coming up.

What if after the 14 day cut off something strange is found in the levels of the urine tests, for either Mayweather or Pacquiao, they would not be able to do further tests after this point and someone might end up having an unfair advantage, completely defeating the purpose of the testing even taking place.

this is the reason, why i doubt floyds real intention. on their supposed first dealing. floyd counter-offer this 14 day cut off to team pac's 24 days.

if he really wants a fair fight (its very unlikely, that they do not know that randoms antithesis is cut-off), he isnt supposed to offer a 14 days. if they agree, i dont know what to say with his intention.

[led]

He sure is, a man who's faced all kinds of adversity in the ring, and has come out victorious. So why the big issue over a little bit of blood? I just can't figure that out.

i believe that its pac's belief. he doesnt wanna get blood taken from his body closer to fight date. and not just blood its anything that is invasive to his body (http://www.second s out.com/columns/thomas -hauser/mayweather-pacquiao-peds-and-boxingarticle that show even ariza cant ask him what to do). and the other belief for his winning is wearing the same rosary he had, which was a rosary from quiapo church, which he considered miraculous (a place in manila)

[AllEyesOpen]

this is the reason, why i doubt floyds real intention. on their supposed first dealing. floyd counter-offer this 14 day cut off to team pac's 24 days.

if he really wants a fair fight (its very unlikely, that they do not know that randoms antithesis is cut-off), he isnt supposed to offer a 14 days. if they agree, i dont know what to say with his intention.

In the first negotiation, there was no idea of how the program would work, and if Pacquiao was refusing all kind of testing unless he had a month of no tests, Mayweather decided to compromise. So, know that we know that the USADA will choose a point in which to end the testing on their own, be it 18-14 days, why is there a need to request it, or even argue it, if it will happen anyways in some form or another. The program was effective the first time, & I believe that the USADA does understand that the closer to the fight the tests are taken, the more of an effect the tests will have on the fighter, be it real or imagined, but still it should be their choice to set the cut off date, and their choice to continue if needed. If any of the fighters are allowed to choose a window in which they won't be tested then it defeates the purpose.


Don't get me wrong, i hope the fight gets made, with or without a cut off date. I've just always wondered why the possibility, however small, of getting tested at a given time close to the fight was such a deal breaker, when it's almost just as likely that the tests will end on their own earlier then the said date. The only difference to me is that Pacquiao and his team won't know when the tests will stop, and they need to have a gurantee of no testing for a given amount of time, and that seems suspect to me.