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  • IMDAZED
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    #431
    Originally posted by fcastro1
    Its a fact. Its rare to have an asian athlete on drugs and thats the truth. Its not part of our culture. Maybe yours but not mine.
    Again:

    So Chinese culture is the same as Filipino? How about Russian?

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    • Ray*
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      #432
      Originally posted by tehMatrix
      you can't be this ******?
      You cant be that dumb!

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        #433
        Originally posted by Danny Gunz
        Although I don't believe that HGH does not benefit athletes there are still many studies out there that have said that it doesnt benefit athletes.

        http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nat...-from-sta.html

        http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...U5c&refer=home

        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...tool=pmcentrez

        Harvard Health Letter. Harvard Health Publications. 2008-01-01. https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsl..._Health_Letter. "Used by athletes to build muscle, human growth hormone may in fact make muscles bigger, but not necessarily stronger. HGH is also marketed as an anti-aging treatment, but there are no data about possible side effects from long-term use."
        A few quotes from the link in bold:

        "The conclusion is that growth hormone does indeed have powerful effects on fat and carbohydrate metabolism, and in particular promotes the metabolic use of adipose tissue triacylglycerol. However, there is no proof that net protein retention is promoted in adults, except possibly of connective tissue. The overexaggeration of the effects of growth hormone in muscle building is effectively promoting its abuse and thereby encouraging athletes and elderly men to expose themselves to increased risk of disease for little benefit."

        "In fact, as is argued below, the evidence that GH is anabolic in healthy adults is very poor. Furthermore, there is good evidence that chronic high serum concentrations of GH decrease performance and acutely may even cause metabolic changes in the short term that are likely to diminish the capacity for strenuous physical activity."

        And I assure you the quotes are not taken out of context, if you dont believe me just check.

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          #434
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Again:

          So Chinese culture is the same as Filipino? How about Russian?
          What are you talking about? you dont even know because you have probably never been to asia. Philippines is made up of chinese and malay people you clown. We share similar foods and way of thinking like not losing face by taking drugs.

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            #435
            Originally posted by fcastro1
            What are you talking about? you dont even know because you have probably never been to asia. Philippines is made up of chinese and malay people you clown. We share similar foods and way of thinking like not losing face by taking drugs.
            You referenced ASIA. Can you answer the question?

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              #436
              Originally posted by fcastro1
              What are you talking about? you dont even know because you have probably never been to asia. Philippines is made up of chinese and malay people you clown. We share similar foods and way of thinking like not losing face by taking drugs.
              Over the past four days, the Drug Enforcement Administration staged a series of busts around the country that culminated the biggest crackdown ever against performance-enhancing drugs.

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                #437
                Originally posted by Danny Gunz
                A few quotes from the link in bold:

                "The conclusion is that growth hormone does indeed have powerful effects on fat and carbohydrate metabolism, and in particular promotes the metabolic use of adipose tissue triacylglycerol. However, there is no proof that net protein retention is promoted in adults, except possibly of connective tissue. The overexaggeration of the effects of growth hormone in muscle building is effectively promoting its abuse and thereby encouraging athletes and elderly men to expose themselves to increased risk of disease for little benefit."

                "In fact, as is argued below, the evidence that GH is anabolic in healthy adults is very poor. Furthermore, there is good evidence that chronic high serum concentrations of GH decrease performance and acutely may even cause metabolic changes in the short term that are likely to diminish the capacity for strenuous physical activity."

                And I assure you the quotes are not taken out of context, if you dont believe me just check.
                what i been sayin man, it's just good for muscle definition, skin, even bones and more but it really has little to no benefits to pro athletes

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                  #438
                  Originally posted by tehMatrix
                  what i been sayin man, it's just good for muscle definition, skin, even bones and more but it really has little to no benefits to pro athletes
                  How about other PEDs? Hmmm...?

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                  • Ray*
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                    #439
                    Originally posted by tehMatrix
                    he was holding onto floyd in rd 2 when floyd was ready to be taken

                    do you have an unbiased fibre in your being?
                    Originally posted by Ray*
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                    Originally posted by tehMatrix
                    are you honestly gonna pretend like he isn't attempting to hold him after smashing him with a punch?

                    i always found it funny how floyd was the one that was hurt and pushing shane off of him
                    Originally posted by Ray*



                    Well no need to pretend, The evidence is right in front of you, You are the one that claimed "Mosley was holding in round 2" Now you try to claim Mayweather was the one pushing him off even though he was hurt.

                    How about giving credit where credit is due? Fact are Mosley hurt Mayweather twice in round 2 and Mayweather was compose enough to fight back even though Mosley was like a Madman trying to finish him off.
                    Originally posted by tehMatrix
                    are you seeing what your layin down here?

                    Originally posted by Ray*

                    Yea, I see me laying down facts.
                    Originally posted by tehMatrix
                    you can't be this ******?
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    You cant be that dumb!

                    Yeah, Mosley was really holding on for dear life in round 2....

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                      #440
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      You referenced ASIA. Can you answer the question?
                      Do you not know where asia is? answer the question name me an asian athlete to be caught with steroids? Im giving you fact thats its not a part of asian culture. How hard is that to comprehend.

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