Andre Ward Speaking about Victor Conte and Steroid Testing

[Ray*]

We did. These fools acting like Cotto in the latter rounds against Pacquiao. They'll walk into the finisher soon enough.

Ouch!!! Thats cold..

[slicksouthpaw16]

Barry Bonds went from a 40hr a year hitter (at best), to breaking the single season record and then the all-time record. Are you ok, man?


PEDs relate to every sport. Get over yourself.

How would you know?

I don't buy it. I know people who prepared more and were overtrained, fighters I personally knew.

Nothing helped them.


I think it's a joke that there isn't one proven case of a fighter being improved on fight night by peds.

No one has provided one example of this in this thread.

I will wait.

I hate to see both of yall go at it like this (two good posters ) but to answer your question J, i think Mosley was definitely in ''steroid withdrawal'' when he fought Floyd. Every other time he has the stamina and is able to let his hands go but in a fight where there's random drug testing, he all of a sudden had to pace himself and gassed out after 4 rounds. Even in his losses, Shane had the stamina to battle fast paced for a full 12 rounds. He even seemed like he didn't react to shots as good either (head snapping back, retreating ect).

If he fights Mora (who probably won't ask for drug testing because of the opportunity that hes getting), doesn't fade and is not pacing himself, then that would pretty much be all i need to know.

[street bully]

Live your lives shucks. This constant PED talk gtes boring unless you are an expert or a licesnced scientist.

[SplitSecond]

No, why would we?


Actually, HGH has plenty of benefits. And you sound pretty uninformed, making statements that contradict the Head of the Nevada State Medical Advisory Board. Furthermore, there are countless PEDs. Just because you want to harp on one doesn't make the others non-existant.

yea, hgh does have plenty of benefits, too bad non of them help a pro athelete

and why would'nt they have mayweather/roy jones type reflexes? didn't you just say it improves your reflexes?

or is it like coffee where it just wakes you up with that energy rush?

[Ray*]

it's probabley illegal because of the side effects ray

[IMDAZED]

I hate to see both of yall go at it like this (two good posters ) but to answer your question J, i think Mosley was definitely in ''steroid withdrawal'' when he fought Floyd. Every other time he has the stamina and was able to let his hands go but in a fight where there was random drug testing, he all of a sudden had to pace himself and gassed out after 4 rounds. Even in his losses, Shane had the stamina to battle face paced for a full 12 rounds. He even seemed like he didn't react to shots at good either.

If he fights Mora (who probably won't ask for drug testing because of the opportunity that hes getting), doesn't fade and is not pacing himself, then that would pretty much be all i need to know.

He won't be the same anyway after the fight with Floyd. That took a lot out of him mentally.

[SplitSecond]

I hate to see both of yall go at it like this (two good posters ) but to answer your question J, i think Mosley was definitely in ''steroid withdrawal'' when he fought Floyd. Every other time he has the stamina and was able to let his hands go but in a fight where there was random drug testing, he all of a sudden had to pace himself and gassed out after 4 rounds. Even in his losses, Shane had the stamina to battle face paced for a full 12 rounds. He even seemed like he didn't react to shots at good either.

If he fights Mora (who probably won't ask for drug testing because of the opportunity that hes getting), doesn't fade and is not pacing himself, then that would pretty much be all i need to know.

i think he was overtrained, look up the symptoms of overtraining

[IMDAZED]

yea, hgh does have plenty of benefits, too bad non of them help a pro athelete

Why wouldn't HGH help a pro athlete when it's naturally produced in the system to help...anybody?

and why would'nt they have mayweather/roy jones type reflexes? didn't you just say it improves your reflexes?

How do you know if Roy Jones type reflexes aren't really Roy Jones reflexes?

or is it like coffee where it just wakes you up with that energy rush?

As immature as I find your line of thinking, this is beneath you. Be smarter.

[S.G.]

yea, hgh does have plenty of benefits, too bad non of them help a pro athelete

and why would'nt they have mayweather/roy jones type reflexes? didn't you just say it improves your reflexes?

or is it like coffee where it just wakes you up with that energy rush?

HGH seems to me like it'd be most beneficial to a boxer who is moving up in weight. It's funny how a lot of the guys who've been busted or are in su****ion are weight climbers. Jones Jnr, Toney, Mosley, Holyfield, De La Hoya, Pacquiao, etc.

[Guest]

I hate to see both of yall go at it like this (two good posters ) but to answer your question J, i think Mosley was definitely in ''steroid withdrawal'' when he fought Floyd. Every other time he has the stamina and was able to let his hands go but in a fight where there was random drug testing, he all of a sudden had to pace himself and gassed out after 4 rounds. Even in his losses, Shane had the stamina to battle face paced for a full 12 rounds. He even seemed like he didn't react to shots at good either.

If he fights Mora (who probably won't ask for drug testing because of the opportunity that hes getting), doesn't fade and is not pacing himself, then that would pretty much be all i need to know.

Mosley came under so much scrutiny years ago, that I doubt he's done them in a while.

I mean HBO killed him back in the day for his admission.

Mosley is just old and fading now.

He's probably gonna hang them up soon.

He's got enough money.