Andre Ward Speaking about Victor Conte and Steroid Testing

[SplitSecond]

I don't create the list of banned substances. I know coffee is not among them. And for obvious reasons. Try to pretend you aren't in high school anymore.

marijuana is a banned substance, is that a PED?

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but im not in highschool....finished last month

No kidding.

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marijuana is a banned substance, is that a PED?

It's not on the list of PEDs.

[SplitSecond]

It stands for PERFORMANCE ENHANCING Drug. And there over 100-something different types as noted by WADA. A little research never hurt anyone but you'd rather just make your point, no?

Now, you say steroids (or is it PEDs in general?) don't make the fighter. So what do they do?

PED's might aswell just be defined as "steroids", considering you wont take anything else besides what's banned by the boxing commission

so, STEROIDS

hgh doesn't do ****, but it might clean up the sport

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PED's might aswell just be defined as "steroids", considering you wont take anything else besides what's banned by the boxing commission

so, STEROIDS

hgh doesn't do ****, but it might clean up the sport

Your argument is getting weaker by the second. EPO is NOT a steroid but it is a performance enhancer. Therefore, PEDs aren't defined as a steroid. Furthermore, not everything banned is a PED. Like marijuana - not a PED but is a banned substance. There is a detailed list of what are PEDs on WADA'[s website. Feel free to do your homework.

So...your point again?

Oh, and can you explain how HGH doesn't "do ****?" I mean, I'm sure you've done your research on this?

[SplitSecond]

Your argument is getting weaker by the second. EPO is NOT a steroid but it is a performance enhancer. Therefore, PEDs aren't defined as a steroid. Furthermore, not everything banned is a PED. Like marijuana - not a PED but is a banned substance. There is a detailed list of what are PEDs on WADA'[s website. Feel free to do your homework.

So...your point again?

Oh, and can you explain how HGH doesn't "do ****?" I mean, I'm sure you've done your research on this?

yea i has, seems like hgh is a big lie, and is only really useful for old timers

it apperently only helps with muscle definition, gives you better skin yada yada, but it wont make you stronger, it wont give you more stamina etc
it's useless for atheletes, it wont give you any edge

and i've read MANY MANY MANY, articles sayin the same ****

tho you can always mix HGH with steroids, be ripped, be strong
but steroids is overrated anyway

[SplitSecond]

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[AFighter4U]

yea i has, seems like hgh is a big lie, and is only really useful for old timers

it apperently only helps with muscle definition, gives you better skin yada yada, but it wont make you stronger, it wont give you more stamina etc
it's useless for atheletes, it wont give you any edge

and i've read MANY MANY MANY, articles sayin the same ****

tho you can always mix HGH with steroids, be ripped, be strong
but steroids is overrated anyway

here are a few links questioning the benefits of HGH:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4467372&page=1

http://kidshealth.org/teen/food_fitness/sports/steroids.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HGH_treatment_for_athletic_enhancement

[SplitSecond]

here are a few links questioning the benefits of HGH:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4467372&page=1

http://kidshealth.org/teen/food_fitness/sports/steroids.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HGH_tre...ic_enhancement

yep, definitely overrated, thanks for the extra links man

people these days think steroids will turn you from good to great

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yea i has, seems like hgh is a big lie, and is only really useful for old timers

it apperently only helps with muscle definition, gives you better skin yada yada, but it wont make you stronger, it wont give you more stamina etc
it's useless for atheletes, it wont give you any edge

and i've read MANY MANY MANY, articles sayin the same ****

tho you can always mix HGH with steroids, be ripped, be strong
but steroids is overrated anyway

Really? Dr. Margaret Goodman says otherwise.