Andre Ward Speaking about Victor Conte and Steroid Testing

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  • Dick Buffman
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    #311
    Originally posted by sigrab jr
    I think you should tell me what i'm wrong about instead of claiming it's a bad post. I thought that's how things work around here. I think I made a well thought of post, and i'm more right than wrong.

    Please correct me where i'm wrong Jacky.
    I'm too tired for that right now.

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    • sigrab jr
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      #312
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      I've gotten Rid**** Bowe, Teddy Pendergrass, Gary Coleman .

      Azumah Nelson. A wonderful, wonderful fighter.
      Lol @ Rid**** Bowe and Gary Coleman. That looks nothing like Bowe but I can see why posters would think it's Coleman.

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      • BattlingNelson
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        #313
        Originally posted by jreckoning
        I know my boxing man.

        I don't mind a debate.
        You know your boxing but you need to read up on the PED's my man.

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          #314
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson
          You know your boxing but you need to read up on the PED's my man.

          I need to champion their legalization it's true.

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          • QADASHBANYAH1
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            #315
            Originally posted by jreckoning
            Tell me how peds make a fighter learn better skills...
            Its not about giving you better skills, but if you are a fairly decent fighter then you will be able to last longer and hit harder. These are two ingredients that can a turn a fight around fairly quickly.

            Imagine a left hook hits you in the head from a feather fisted fighter, You know he cant knock you out. You have a rematch with him and now he hits even harder. He knocks you out, hes stronger etc.


            YOU SHOULD EASILY UNDERSTAND THIS.

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              #316
              Originally posted by QADASHBANYAH1
              Its not about giving you better skills, but if you are a fairly decent fighter then you will be able to last longer and hit harder. These are two ingredients that can a turn a fight around fairly quickly.

              Imagine a left hook hits you in the head from a feather fisted fighter, You know he cant knock you out. You have a rematch with him and now he hits even harder. He knocks you out, hes stronger etc.


              YOU SHOULD EASILY UNDERSTAND THIS.

              I would like to see Paulie Malignaggi as a ko artist.

              I wonder what the right amount of peds for him to be one would be. LOL.

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              • Dick Buffman
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                #317
                Originally posted by jreckoning
                I would like to see Paulie Malignaggi as a ko artist.

                I wonder what the right amount of peds for him to be one would be. LOL.
                Part of the problem with him is his hand problems don't allow him to turn the punch over at the point of impact.

                Ped's might dull the pain and allow him to punch through his target instead of what he does now which is punch at it.

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                  #318
                  Originally posted by Saucy Jacky
                  Part of the problem with him is his hand problems don't allow him to turn the punch over at the point of impact.

                  Ped's might dull the pain and allow him to punch through his target instead of what he does now which is punch at it.

                  Maybe he can be an example how peds work well.

                  All these other ped users seem to get their ass beat on the juice.

                  ****in Richard Hall and Vargas.

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                  • indystress
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                    #319
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    I think you need to go do your homework then we can continue, my man. If a PED can help you stay in the gym twice as long, you've got twice the preparation. You couple that with it providing more endurance, strength, speed, etc...and you have guys like Brady Anderson going from hitting 15 homers a year to 50. Presto. Ask Marion Jones if they don't help. Ole girl went from threatening FloJo to moving as fast as Margarito :lol1. Ask Ben Johnson too.
                    did you know that alot of boxers today are able to box for a full 10 to 12 rounds? heck, back in the days, boxers did it for 15 rounds for championship fights.

                    the steroids you are talking about are about building big muscle mass and strenght...none of which is evident in pac...the beating that pac put on is via accumalation of punches...if pac did have HOME RUN punch, dont you think everyone outside of the featherweights division wouldve drop like hatton the idiot?

                    pac has no mad power, its all about boxing smarter, which he does really real...as well as fight plan, which he execute just as well...none of which STEROIDS or PED helps

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                    • Jim Tom
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                      #320
                      Originally posted by jreckoning
                      I think he should be against testing as any fighter should.

                      PEDS don't give people skills, heart, or determination.


                      Otherwise we'd have a bunch of bodybuilder champs.

                      He should make a stand against testing and for the legalization of performance enhanching drugs and their benefits.

                      p.s.. i doubt he's using anything at all.
                      PEDs are dangerous in boxing.Firstly you need to know the definition.PED i.e performamnce enhancing drugs.They improve your performance,you become faster,more powerful,have more endurance.Someone who takes them e.g in weight lifting,lifts heavier weights,in boxing they can punch above their weight and become faster.The faster bit e.g all those athletes who got disqualified after breaking records.
                      Another thing PED's make you sharper mentally.During fights people get tired and it becomes difficult to concentrate,your body reverts to what it was taught and no thinking takes place.Someone on PEDs actually has time to think in the ring and adjust as needed.What makes it worse is as the fight goes on people get tired and shots become less powerful,less shots thrown and defence decreases.Someone in PEDs might be getting stronger as the fight goes on which can lead to serious injury on the opponent

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