Andre Ward Speaking about Victor Conte and Steroid Testing

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Vargas was 100-5 as an amateur.

Are you denying he had skills?

Having skills doesn't mean that a PED wouldn't help.

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You see, if you knew boxing you wouldn't come up with those examples. Please show how Vargas wasn't helped by PEDs.

They missing the point. I dont know who in here said taking PEDS would automatically out a W in your column. They reaching big time.

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You see, if you knew boxing you wouldn't come up with those examples. Please show how Vargas wasn't helped by PEDs.

well, w/l column for starters

[Guest]

So you're not jreck...?

How does a person attain skill?

Vargas attained skill by fighting for years, being in the Olympics, going 100-5 as an amateur and representing in the Olympics.

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Having skills doesn't mean that a PED wouldn't help.

and they say we're reachin j

[IMDAZED]

well, w/l column for starters

What if a lesser skilled boxer can go 10 rounds with someone using a PED but would get KTFO in 2 without it? And so forth.

[IMDAZED]

and they say we're reachin j

Go ahead, answer.

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What if a lesser skilled boxer can go 10 rounds with someone using a PED but would get KTFO in 2 without it? And so forth.

so the PEDs are now enhancing boxer's chins? or tightening up their D?

[IMDAZED]

Vargas attained skill by fighting for years, being in the Olympics, going 100-5 as an amateur and representing in the Olympics.

So he acquired skill through repetition is what you're saying?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I've never seen a bodybuilder become a champ. Boxing is different.

You have to have the skill then I think it's legit to do drugs to aid in other areas.

I think it's cool if Ward did drugs to improve his stamina, but truthfully I doubt he did.

Jreck its clear you dont know alot about PEDS. No offense.

Its 2010 bro the days where drugs are just used to gain "big" muscles are long gone.

Meet Floyd Landis:




I could probably curl that little bastard.