Andre Ward Speaking about Victor Conte and Steroid Testing

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If you don't have the skill to initiate movement and counter effectively , no amount of peds will help you.

right... but if its there, it can help hone it....

at least thats what the barry bonds haters always said!

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If a drug can help you train harder, longer, gain stamina, help recover injuries, help with punch resistance nevermind....

Silly topic.

Now PEDS help in EVERY other sport EXCEPT boxing.

Name a champ that used peds and beat everyone.

I will wait.

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So you don't have any examples of how a roided up fighter would be someone with better skill.

Why not?

You are missing the point. Skill can only take you so far. Zab Judah has skills. Maybe more so than Antonio Margarito. But along with skill comes preparation, training, etc. And in boxing, that's where PEDs are most beneficial.

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Saw this a few weeks ago, Conte is a mad scientist, he's been on the bad side of things and now seems to be trying to right his wrongs, Ward is no dummy and wouldnt have Conte's help if he didnt believe him and also checking stuff out himself, at least you never hear him say he doesnt know what he's taking.

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Name a champ that used peds and beat everyone.

I will wait.

He doesnt exist.

What does that have to do with the fact that PEDS help in boxing???

No one ever said youd go undefeated and turn into Willie Pep skill wise. They enhance performance. Enhance it.

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right... but if its there, it can help hone it....

at least thats what the barry bonds haters always said!

Barry Bonds already had the skill to hit pitchers something 99% of the world can't do.

The ball just went a little farther with his use of peds.


I don't see how it relates to boxing.

I can't name one boxer that went from nothing to something because of peds.

Or beat someone they shouldn't have because of peds.

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Name a champ that used peds and beat everyone.

I will wait.

PEDs don't make you invincivble. They don't have a superman drug yet (wtf?). But they can make you a whole lot better. If you can increase the time working at your craft, you get better at your craft. This is common sense. Or at least I thought it was common.

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If a drug can help you train harder, longer, gain stamina, help recover injuries, help with punch resistance nevermind....

Silly topic.

Now PEDS help in EVERY other sport EXCEPT boxing.

They ENHANCE Performance. That means it enhances what you already have. No one ever claimed theryd turn you into a boxing genius.

FFS studies show drinking milk helps you build strong bones... meaning your fists can inflict more damage due to denser bones and your face can take more punishment...

thereby ENHANCING YOUR PERFORMANCE....


so we should ban and test and ***** about that ****?!?!

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You are missing the point. Skill can only take you so far. Zab Judah has skills. Maybe more so than Antonio Margarito. But along with skill comes preparation, training, etc. And in boxing, that's where PEDs are most beneficial.

Im lost here if a guy who can only max out at 8 rounds takes PEDS and go the extra 4 how does that NOT help him?

I mean we have boxers that have been caught roiding and taking PEDS. We have Conte on LITR Radio saying he knew boxers that take stuff and that havent been caught.

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I am tired of these pusscakes overrating the benefits of peds and acting like they can make a fighter a completely different fighter.

I don't want a police state.

It's fighting, not tiddlywinks.

PED use in sports work. Look no further than sprinting, cycling, swimming and MLB. They are caller "PERFORMANCE ENHANCERS" for a reason----> they enhance performance. Obviously if you have no skill and you come up against an elite skilled fighter no amount of PED's will help you.