Prime for Prime: Who is more skilled- Judah or Pacquiao?

[fdotorres]

Keep laughing. You'd probably laugh if I told you Manny couldn't beat Wlad Klitschko.

nah man, i'm no many fan nor stan

still, it's laughable that you think manny would get KO'd by... judah

[HandSpeed303]

Manny Pacquiao. I'd like to know what some of you define skill as.

I would too...Zab is fast with power, so is Pac. Zab wasn't exactly the boxer...Zab beat most of the fighters he did with pure speed and power. Not a ton of boxing skill. Zab made tons of mental mistakes in the ring (like pulling straight back...Something he still does), I would even give him the edge in footwork.

Plus the question is Prime for Prime...Pac is in his prime, and he is a much better boxer now.

I really want to know what "Skills" Zab has over Pac?

[Bhopreign]

nah man, i'm no many fan nor stan

still, it's laughable that you think manny would get KO'd by... judah

Its laughable that you think it CANT happen, it could.

[HandSpeed303]

Pacquiao is more skilled. Zab is IMO a little more athletically gifted.

We don't agree much, but this is spot on!

[HandSpeed303]

You don't know what intangibles are?

Intangibles is something you can't learn....

Is either you have it or you don't...

It might not be a skill, but is not called skill is called "INTANGIBLES"

Heart is an intangible-You can't learn it, either you have it or you don't,

Mental toughness is an intangible-You can't learn it, either you have it or you don't

Will(to win, to keep going, to not quit, refuse to lose) is an intangible- You can't learn it, either you have it or you don't.

Toughness is an intangible-You can't learn it, either you have it or you don't.

Pride(to not quit, to fight as a champ, to go out in your shield) is an intangible- You can't learn it, either you have it or you don't.

How long have you been watching boxing for? That you don't even know what intangibles are?

Church....

[Kagami Taiga]

What skill did he have if he was lacking technique? I mean... he threw his punches straight for the most part, until he got someone hurt, and wanted to make it easy for them to survive the round.

He had handspeed... that is literally it.

he had the skill to beat most, he lacked the techniqur and diclipline to beat the top fighters. he was a straight punch thrower, so what? so is mayweather for the most part. i just think his technique was really weak and thats where he ran into trouble. for instance rjj was very very skilled. but his technique was unorthodox and flawed, his defense was always suspect. and it caught up to him. fmj is an example of a fighter with both great skill and great technique.

oh in btw, this is all my opinion. ive seen these fighters fight and this is what i always felt was true. zab had skills, i dnt see how ppl argue otherwise.

[fdotorres]

Its laughable that you think it CANT happen, it could.

current judah can't KO any top WW

but sure, he'd KO the top p4p fighters now

[Fox McCloud]

Its laughable that you think it CANT happen, it could.

Anything is possible.

The problem is... Manny has an excellent chin, and Zab Judah sucks ass at finishing people.

He had Corley hurt, let him off the hook, he had Mayweather hurt, let him off the hook, he had Cotto hurt, let him off the hook.

There are just countless times when he had someone hurt, and just could not put them away to save his life.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Watch Judah fight, A) He has no straight left hand, he just baits and loads up uppercuts, B) He has a weak jab which he doesn't use well, C) His right hook is no where near as good as Pacquiao's.

So Technically, Pacquiao is better.

Boxa, the bolded is simply untrue. Judah had a beautiful stright lead left when he wanted to use it. Before the Kostya fight he had a very good jab(again seldom used but it was there). His right hook was dependent on if he set up his punches or not(more mental than actual skillset, Zab has shown in the past that he can set up his left off of the right hook).

[Bhopreign]

current judah can't KO any top WW

but sure, he'd KO the top p4p fighters now

Umm this is boxing, anything can happen, I didnt say he would outbox Pac over 12 rounds, but he could land THAT punch that KO's him.