Prime for Prime: Who is more skilled- Judah or Pacquiao?

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  • Telepath
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    #71
    Originally posted by fdotorres
    Keep laughing. You'd probably laugh if I told you Manny couldn't beat Wlad Klitschko.

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    • boxasmash
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      #72
      Watch Judah fight, A) He has no straight left hand, he just baits and loads up uppercuts, B) He has a weak jab which he doesn't use well, C) His right hook is no where near as good as Pacquiao's.

      So Technically, Pacquiao is better.

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      • RubenSonny
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        #73
        Originally posted by -Antonio-
        When Judah gets overwhelmed he settles for the same counter left hook, or counter left uppercut. He backs straight up. He stays inside too long and gets caught with short punches. He fights with his hands low. He doesn't change his rhythm enough. I can go on and on.

        Look at the common opponents. Did Manny ice Cotto and outclass Clottey based on durability alone? No.
        Stamina, mental toughness and great coaching played a big part.

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        • jrosales13
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          #74
          Originally posted by Telepath
          Thing is, I've always disliked Zab. He's a terrible human specimen. However, he's a lot stronger, a lot faster, and a lot more skilled a boxer than Manny.

          I seriously think Zab would ice him. I don't think Manny would be able to handle his speed and power.
          A LOT stronger? A LOT faster?

          Hey it is all fantasy anyways. Is not like they're going to fight each other... So no way to prove right or wrong. Is all opinion based and I respect your opinion but I will disagree very strongly...

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          • Chief2ndzOnly!
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            #75
            Originally posted by Bhopreign
            Pac's punch variety is something Zab has never had and not many fighters have. That alone is a big plus when debating who's more skillful, certain punches Zab just doesnt throw, at this stage Zab only throws like 3 different punches.
            I don't particularly agree with the bolded. It's not the variety of punches(as Zab could throw every punch in the book "effectively"), it is more so the volume of the punches that separate the two. Pac has a greater punch output than Judah, not a greater variety. Unless you want to count the Clottey "double" punch that Pac has in his arsenal.

            The bolded is irrelevant to the thread.

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            • jrosales13
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              #76
              Originally posted by Telepath
              Keep laughing. You'd probably laugh if I told you Manny couldn't beat Wlad Klitschko.
              You also think Wlad could beat Pac?

              I think you just a Pac hater...

              Wlad got KO'd by Ross Purity, and by a golfer and you don't think Pac could do the same?

              WTF?

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              • Telepath
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                #77
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                A LOT stronger? A LOT faster?

                Hey it is all fantasy anyways. Is not like they're going to fight each other... So no way to prove right or wrong. Is all opinion based and I respect your opinion but I will disagree very strongly...
                He's a lot stronger naturally - a way bigger dude. A "lot" faster? Nope, but I'd say he's faster in the Welterweight division. That wasn't exactly accurate by me.

                Anyway... I'll tell you this. If him and Manny were to fight, I'd lay a substantial bet on Zab to win, because the odds I'd be getting would be awesome, and I think Zab should actually be the favorite in that fight.

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                • Chief2ndzOnly!
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by CungLe
                  ****** Burner and his ****** African American sisters!
                  No one with brain would vote for bum Judah!
                  Not a good look and has nothing to do with the conversation at hand bruh. I suggest you delete and start over again. You're traveling down the wrong road with this in the bolded.

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                  • boxasmash
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                    #79
                    people see a black fighter dipping and moving and automatically think he's more skilled.

                    Judah counter punches and very rarely goes forward, that alone makes him look more skilled than he really is, Pacquiao does all his stuff whilst standing right infront of his opponent.

                    He has a better arsenal by far, footwork, boxing smarts. To say Pacquiao is better than Judah at everything is not a strech.

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                    • Kagami Taiga
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Chief2ndzOnly!
                      I don't particularly agree with the bolded. It's not the variety of punches(as Zab could throw every punch in the book "effectively"), it is more so the volume of the punches that separate the two. Pac has a greater punch output than Judah, not a greater variety. Unless you want to count the Clottey "double" punch that Pac has in his arsenal.

                      The bolded is irrelevant to the thread.
                      i agree with this. pac isnt a very skilled puncher. no knock on pac, but he doesnt thorw his punches with the skill of a guy like mayweather. he throws them fast, throws them hard and throws them in some crazy combos. but if u go into a gym for the first time, they will not show u a tape of pac as an example of the right way to throw punches.

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