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Originally posted by ThaGreatest
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"To be the Man, you gotta beat the Man" and Hasim Rahman is the last person to have beaten "The Man" Lennox Lewis, which is why he can still, in a round-about way, claim to be the best in the world right now -
So no matter who he fights next, he's getting KO'd?Originally posted by dansweeney
That's reaching...Comment
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It's only a reach because Oleg Maskaev and Cal Brock are being considered as opponents for Quitali....I'd make Rock, Barrett, Toney, and/or Brewster odds-on favorites to KO an ailing Quitali at this point (if in fact he's actually ailing and not faking)Originally posted by hollisterComment
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Um he got beat by "the man" in the rematch so that point isnt right...Originally posted by SacTown1
the fact that all heavyweights call out Vitali Klitchko tells you who the king is.Comment
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The rematch doesn't detract from the fact that Rock is he last man to defeat Lennox Lewis, Quitali fought bravely vs. Lennox (I was there at Staples and cheering for both guys, it was a great slug-fest) but he lost to Lennox as well, and frankly Vitali doesn't own a legit W vs. a top 10 heavyweight, while Rock has beaten Lennox and had been competing with tope heavyweights for nearly a decade now....Rock demolished Tua in the rematch (judged a draw), KO'd Corrie Sanders back when it meant something, and of course KO'd Lennox with 1 shotOriginally posted by KonstantinComment
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That is all true but most people still do not believe he is The Champ. The majority of boxing writers say Vitali is The Champ. Most boxing figures say hes the champ, I want to fight him. I never hear anyone saying "I want to prove Im the best so Ill fight Rock"...Originally posted by SacTown1Comment
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YOu're right, but I'm really not concerned about what boxing writers or so-called "experts" say about a figther....remember Courage Tsabalala???.....anyhow, Vitali got a paper belt and the Ring belt in one fell-swoop vs. a flabby Sanders, which is the main reason why the so-called "experts" claim that he's the champ, but IMO, since Lennox retired as champ, and Rock was the last man to beat him, I still feel Rock is the man to beat no matter who may have the title belts...I'm aware that I'm in the minority here, and that many people question Rock's credentials, but the fact remains that Vitali has neither beaten a reigning champion nor a universally-recognized top 10 contender his ENTIRE career, and Rock spent 7 months as the King of the WorldOriginally posted by KonstantinComment
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Ok this is my last post probably before I agree to disagree (though you bring up some good points)...Originally posted by SacTown1
I would like to point out that the only two losses on Klitchkos record are against two heavyweight champs.
Now lets look at Rahmans losses. (well the ones that make my point)
Loss by 8th round KO to Maskaev. As far as I know he wasnt in the top 10, and I dont think is right now.
A Draw to Holyfield- who had just been recently beaten by Ruiz.
And a loss to Ruiz, who has been beaten by 2 former lightheavies or whatever they were...
Point is that Viatli doesnt have those kind of losses on his record. I dont think The Man should have those kind of losses on his record...Comment
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All valid points, and I totally understand you agreeing 2 disagree, I have more of a "half-glass'full" philosophy when comparing fighters, I like to compare their biggest wins rather than pick apart their losses, and Rock's biggest wins/best performances came against Lewis, Tua, and Sanders....Vitali's best W's are vs. an old Sanders and out-of-shapers Johnson & WIlliams....but I understand the flip-side where you would compare losses, it's a totally respectable way to analyze a fighter, I just look at things from a positive perspectiveOriginally posted by KonstantinComment
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It's a reach because he said "whoever his next opponent is, he will lose by KO..." I agree that VK should fight Rahman, period. Furthermore, I have no idea what the ****ing point is of all this bull**** on the part of VK, changing potential opponents all the ****ing time. However, a statement like the one Sweeney made is clearly motivated by nothing more than hate. In fact, if VK doesn't get his **** straight pretty soon I may be making hateful posts like that too lolOriginally posted by SacTown1Comment
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