Boxing's Mike Tyson on Mecca pilgrimage: report

[omarinbox]

It'll have been after the beauty pageant, bro.

[knn]

I want a direct link to the quote cos u ain't given us one.

Can't google or what?

Anyway,

http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/Islamic-sexual-perversion.htm

[omarinbox]

Can't google or what?

Anyway,
http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/Is...perversion.htm

Mission stateent of the site in question:

Our Mission (Why This Site)
Our ultimate aim is to guide ******s out of the fold of Islam. We also expect that critical voice against Islam will render it somewhat benign.

Sounds unreliable...got a wikiquote?

[AssasinKing]

there's no point in religion. you're suppoused to have faith and belief in yourself, not some ancient book that drives people mad for the sake of good.

Theres always gonna be people like you that say things like this,

Yet in my eyes it keeps people from going mad, stops them being violent, teaches them how to be a human being

If you dont think theres any point in it thats up to you, if it teaches others to be better people. why not follow it

[omarinbox]

Fact is, religion isn't going anywhere. Astrology is redundant and that makes the papers everyday. Some folks are nuts about it.

[knn]

Mission stateent of the site in question

Yeah, so? What is this ad hominem attack? It's obvious that ****** websites would rather sweep such statements under the carpet.

Moreover I merely copy-and-past'ed the first site that came up on google.

Hey, I got another quote for you:

Having sex with the wife is illegal before reaching nine years, ... but the rest of acts like foreplaying [touching for sexual pleasure], hugging and Tafkhid is legal even with a baby

And what's next? Do you want to deny that Mohamed's, peace be upon him, favourite wife was approx. 6 years when he married her?

[knn]

Yet in my eyes it keeps people from going mad, stops them being violent, teaches them how to be a human being

You have no statistical proof for any of that and you merely made it up.

It's vice versa: Religion CAUSES violence (*********ic ******s) and de-humanizes people (= they send their own children to die).

The most de-humanizing conditions of life you find in heavy-religion-practicing regions (Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nigeria etc). The best conditions for human life you find in the least-religion-practicing countries (Canada, Western Europe etc) with USA being globally the sole exception.

If you dont think theres any point in it thats up to you, if it teaches others to be better people. why not follow it

Religious books are usually pretty thick. They teach a lot of stuff. You can find whatever you want in these books. Thus you can not go by what religion _TEACHES_ or what is _WRITTEN_. You can only go by the results (911, child sex, poverty, ugly fashion etc).

[Vadrigar.]

It'll have been after the beauty pageant, bro.

yes, that's quite possible.

[omarinbox]

Yeah, so? What is this ad hominem attack? It's obvious that ****** websites would rather sweep such statements under the carpet.

Moreover I merely copy-and-past'ed the first site that came up on google.

Hey, I got another quote for you:

Having sex with the wife is illegal before reaching nine years, ... but the rest of acts like foreplaying [touching for sexual pleasure], hugging and Tafkhid is legal even with a baby

And what's next? Do you want to deny that Mohamed's, peace be upon him, favourite wife was approx. 6 years when he married her?

wikipedia isn't a ****** website. get me a wikipedia article that backs those quotes up and i'll accept they are fact.

[knn]

wikipedia isn't a ****** website. get me a wikipedia article that backs those quotes up and i'll accept they are fact.

If it isn't in WikiPedia then it didn't happen? What a nonsense. Googling for the quote gives 4000+ results. If you think this is non-Islamic then YOU need to prove it.

Some of the 4000+ sites deal about people like YOU = who are in denial.