Will Pacquiao be intimidated by Mayweather's speed and timing?

[boxasmash]

We all saw how tentative and nervous Shane got when he was eating counters, he started that shaking movement to try and give himself a new look and in the process burned himself out. How would Pacquiao respond?

I wonder if Mayweather will stand and fight Pacquiao, he could possibly pick him off but Pacquiao will inevitably land that left hand in mid ranged distance.

How do you see Mayweather approaching this fight? How will Pacquiao respond to his speed and timing?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

We all saw how tentative and nervous Shane got when he was eating counters, he started that shaking movement to try and give himself a new look and in the process burned himself out. How would Pacquiao respond?

I wonder if Mayweather will stand and fight Pacquiao, he could possibly pick him off but Pacquiao will inevitably land that left hand in mid ranged distance.

How do you see Mayweather approaching this fight? How will Pacquiao respond to his speed and timing?

Physically these fighters are even. They are both fast, both strong , both good fighters.

I think overall Floyd is the more polished better fighter and Pac is the more explosive fighter.

However what separates these two isnt skill or speed or resume. Its smarts. The smarter fighter will win.

What I have come to realize is that Floyd doesnt fight with his fists he fights with his brain. Watch the Shane Mosley fight. The adjustments he make are so ridiculous. He gets hit with 2 huge right hands in round 2. Shane goes the next 30 minutes without landing another right hand.

Adjustments. Floyd has that down to a science. He will find a weakness and poke and prod at it until his opponent is mentally and physically beaten up.

Against Pac will be no different. He will find something that works. Most think it will be the lead right. And to a certain extent I agree that is the pucnh that will light Manny up alot.

BUT.....

Floyds jab is laser accurate and blazing fast. It didnt miss Shane once. When Floyd threw it Shane had no idea what to do. Floyds jab will be important than his lead right. The lead right is always there but the Jab will make that lead right even more deadly when he throws it.

Also watch for body punching. Vs. Lefties Floyd attacks the body relentlessly.

Corley, Judah, and Mitchell got pounded to the body. Mitchell was stopped to the body and Judah was hurt to the body several times. Floyds body punching is nuts and goes unnoticed to the casual viewer. Pacs body will be attacked and hard.

Lastly...

Watch for inside fighting. Watch the clinches. Watch how Floyd maneuvers on the inside. Pac is not a good inside fighter. Floyds is hard to hit on the inside and he can still get off laser right hands and hard body shots on the inside. I dont think this fight will be competitive or close in any shape form or fashion.

Floyd will win almost every round. Early rounds will be Floyds but he will turn it up later in the fight and do more damage.

I got Floyd 10 rounds to 2. Or late stoppage around Round 10.

[boxasmash]

Physically these fighters are even. They are both fast, both strong , both good fighters.

I think overall Floyd is the more polished better fighter and Pac is the more explosive fighter.

However what separates these two isnt skill or speed or resume. Its smarts. The smarter fighter will win.

What I have come to realize is that Floyd doesnt fight with his fists he fights with his brain. Watch the Shane Mosley fight. The adjustments he make are so ridiculous. He gets hit with 2 huge right hands in round 2. Shane goes the next 30 minutes without landing another right hand.

Adjustments. Floyd has that down to a science. He will find a weakness and poke and prod at it until his opponent is mentally and physically beaten up.

Against Pac will be no different. He will find something that works. Most think it will be the lead right. And to a certain extent I agree that is the pucnh that will light Manny up alot.

BUT.....

Floyds jab is laser accurate and blazing fast. It didnt miss Shane once. When Floyd threw it Shane had no idea what to do. Floyds jab will be important than his lead right. The lead right is always there but the Jab will make that lead right even more deadly when he throws it.

Also watch for body punching. Vs. Lefties Floyd attacks the body relentlessly.

Corley, Judah, and Mitchell got pounded to the body. Mitchell was stopped to the body and Judah was hurt to the body several times. Floyds body punching is nuts and goes unnoticed to the casual viewer. Pacs body will be attacked and hard.

Lastly...

Watch for inside fighting. Watch the clinches. Watch how Floyd maneuvers on the inside. Pac is not a good inside fighter. Floyds is hard to hit on the inside and he can still get off laser right hands and hard body shots on the inside. I dont think this fight will be competitive or close in any shape form or fashion.

Floyd will win almost every round. Early rounds will be Floyds but he will turn it up later in the fight and do more damage.

I got Floyd 10 rounds to 2. Or late stoppage around Round 10.

I agree, in most cases I always pick the better boxer and this is one of them. I think Floyd also holds a slight size advantage too, but Pacquiao is so explosive you can never rule him out of getting a KO/TKO or scoring a couple of knockdowns.

I think Pac has to put away the early rounds or he could find himself in a hole going into the second half of the fight. I wont rule out a stoppage for Mayweather either, Pacquiao will definitely go out on his sheild if he's losing pushing for a knockout. Something Shane was unwilling to do.

[Chups]

The only intimidating thing about Floyd is his mouth and the mouth of his Dad.

[GrandpaBernard]

We all saw how tentative and nervous Shane got when he was eating counters, he started that shaking movement to try and give himself a new look and in the process burned himself out. How would Pacquiao respond?

I wonder if Mayweather will stand and fight Pacquiao, he could possibly pick him off but Pacquiao will inevitably land that left hand in mid ranged distance.

How do you see Mayweather approaching this fight? How will Pacquiao respond to his speed and timing?

Myth #1 manny pac will keep throwing 200 punches per round even when he's getting countered because of all his heart and determination

Marquez was able to cut down manny pac's punch output down to only 51 by throwing a Mayweatherish volume of punches. About 43 per round. That's only 3 more than what Floyd averaged in his two most recent fights, 40.

Floyd counters much better than Marquez. Marquez was able to give manny hell even though he's not the most physically gifted fighter out there, but Floyd is possibly the most athletic boxer right now.

Manny drops his hands after being hit, and that's enough time for Floyd to reposition himself into a better position.


Myth #2 manny pac has all the advantages stance wise due to being a southpaw

Being a southpaw makes you more vulnerable to the orthodox cross, Floyd's best punch. Manny has always been a sucker for the straight right hand. Even with all his improvements, he's still eating them like a fat kid does Burger King. Floyd's good, old southpaw friend Zab Judah received a double right hands.

A southpaw's exclusive disadvantage is that their liver is closer to the orthodox fighter's lead hand. Floyd is relentless with his liver attack towards southpaws.

He threw all kinds of combos towards Zab's liver. Hook downstairs and then hook upstairs. Lead right hand to make an opening for his left hook to the liver.

Look at how he he smothered Corley in the pocket just to land his right shovel hook to the liver.

The blow that stopped Mitchell was the rare right hand to the liver.


Myth #3 manny pac AND freddie roach are able to come up with all these different game plans for manny to make adjustments and adapt

manny pac has shown some great improvements compared to his old style. In the Cotto fight you could see him lay traps with success, but his style is still very bestial.

He will just let his hands go once he gets into a groove. Against Clottey he could have lost the majority of the rounds and still walk away with a W, but he never bothered to try anything new on the very one-dimensional Ghanaian. He had 11 rounds to study Clottey, but as we all saw he ended up taking 3 left uppercuts IN A ROW in the very last round. Clottey was as basic as it gets, and manny didn't have answer for why Clottey was able to land the same punches from start to finish.

On the other hand, Floyd ALWAYS has his eyes glued to his opponents, so he can observe them to take away their weapons. Pay attention to his face and eyes whenever you watch him fight.


Myth #4 The shoulder roll DOESN'T work against southpaws

Yes, it does. Rolling against a southpaw will protect a fighter from the southpaw right hand, and it's real effective in the pocket.

Cotto tried to shoulder roll when his back was against the ropes vs manny, and he had success with it. Had it been Floyd, manny's head would have snapped back from 3-4 right hands.

Manny SQUARES his shoulders in the pocket which takes away his angle advantages of being a southpaw. All Floyd has to do is place his feet properly to land the overhand right to manny's left temple followed by a left hook.


Myth #5 Floyd won't fight at closer ranges against manny, choosing to utilize his size and reach advantage instead

Judah and Corley were both smaller and shorter, but Floyd still went in the pocket at times to smother them. Floyd is so good at it that their punches end up going AROUND him instead of THROUGH.


Myth #6 manny is the best finisher out there right now

This one is self explanatory.


Anyways, manny is way too open to straight punches along with the left uppercut. Floyd has the best right hands in boxing, and his jab is one of the best in the business currently. Floyd likes to feint with a lead hand upper to block his opponents view and conceal the right hand coming directly behind it.

Floyd stops him in the very last round.

[JK1700]

I think he will be, but unlike Shane he will keep throwing. And keep getting countered, I see Mayweather stopping him with the accumulation. But like you said Pacquiao is a puncher so he always has a chance to land something big.

[JK1700]

Myth #1 manny pac will keep throwing 200 punches per round even when he's getting countered because of all his heart and determination

Marquez was able to cut down manny pac's punch output down to only 51 by throwing a Mayweatherish volume of punches. About 43 per round. That's only 3 more than what Floyd averaged in his two most recent fights, 40.

Floyd counters much better than Marquez. Marquez was able to give manny hell even though he's not the most physically gifted fighter out there, but Floyd is possibly the most athletic boxer right now.

Manny drops his hands after being hit, and that's enough time for Floyd to reposition himself into a better position.


Myth #2 manny pac has all the advantages stance wise due to being a southpaw

Being a southpaw makes you more vulnerable to the orthodox cross, Floyd's best punch. Manny has always been a sucker for the straight right hand. Even with all his improvements, he's still eating them like a fat kid does Burger King. Floyd's good, old southpaw friend Zab Judah received a double right hands.

A southpaw's exclusive disadvantage is that their liver is closer to the orthodox fighter's lead hand. Floyd is relentless with his liver attack towards southpaws.

He threw all kinds of combos towards Zab's liver. Hook downstairs and then hook upstairs. Lead right hand to make an opening for his left hook to the liver.

Look at how he he smothered Corley in the pocket just to land his right shovel hook to the liver.

The blow that stopped Mitchell was the rare right hand to the liver.


Myth #3 manny pac AND freddie roach are able to come up with all these different game plans for manny to make adjustments and adapt

manny pac has shown some great improvements compared to his old style. In the Cotto fight you could see him lay traps with success, but his style is still very bestial.

He will just let his hands go once he gets into a groove. Against Clottey he could have lost the majority of the rounds and still walk away with a W, but he never bothered to try anything new on the very one-dimensional Ghanaian. He had 11 rounds to study Clottey, but as we all saw he ended up taking 3 left uppercuts IN A ROW in the very last round. Clottey was as basic as it gets, and manny didn't have answer for why Clottey was able to land the same punches from start to finish.

On the other hand, Floyd ALWAYS has his eyes glued to his opponents, so he can observe them to take away their weapons. Pay attention to his face and eyes whenever you watch him fight.


Myth #4 The shoulder roll DOESN'T work against southpaws

Yes, it does. Rolling against a southpaw will protect a fighter from the southpaw right hand, and it's real effective in the pocket.

Cotto tried to shoulder roll when his back was against the ropes vs manny, and he had success with it. Had it been Floyd, manny's head would have snapped back from 3-4 right hands.

Manny SQUARES his shoulders in the pocket which takes away his angle advantages of being a southpaw. All Floyd has to do is place his feet properly to land the overhand right to manny's left temple followed by a left hook.


Myth #5 Floyd won't fight at closer ranges against manny, choosing to utilize his size and reach advantage instead

Judah and Corley were both smaller and shorter, but Floyd still went in the pocket at times to smother them. Floyd is so good at it that their punches end up going AROUND him instead of THROUGH.


Myth #6 manny is the best finisher out there right now

This one is self explanatory.


Anyways, manny is way too open to straight punches along with the left uppercut. Floyd has the best right hands in boxing, and his jab is one of the best in the business currently. Floyd likes to feint with a lead hand upper to block his opponents view and conceal the right hand coming directly behind it.

Floyd stops him in the very last round.

Excellent points. I just dont see how Pacquiao can win...

But it will be a huge fight nonetheless.

[MindBat]

When it starts to get down the stretch and Floyd has not been hurt by Manny's offense, I think we're going to see frustration on Manny's and Freddie's faces.

It's possible Floyd may have been somewhat affected by the shot he took from Shane. It was a clearly a buckling shot. That may be in the back of his mind if/when he faces Manny. However, he was able to recover quickly and dish out an onslaught of strikes that had Shane on the back foot the rest of the night.

Many questions will be answered when they meet.

[SNVDoublePunch!]

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they were both a little bit intimidated of each other.

[PAKYO]

Of all those points you listed, it's only the last 3 myth i believe is real.

Myth #1 manny pac will keep throwing 200 punches per round even when he's getting countered because of all his heart and determination

Marquez was able to cut down manny pac's punch output down to only 51 by throwing a Mayweatherish volume of punches. About 43 per round. That's only 3 more than what Floyd averaged in his two most recent fights, 40.

Floyd counters much better than Marquez. Marquez was able to give manny hell even though he's not the most physically gifted fighter out there, but Floyd is possibly the most athletic boxer right now.

Manny drops his hands after being hit, and that's enough time for Floyd to reposition himself into a better position.


Myth #2 manny pac has all the advantages stance wise due to being a southpaw

Being a southpaw makes you more vulnerable to the orthodox cross, Floyd's best punch. Manny has always been a sucker for the straight right hand. Even with all his improvements, he's still eating them like a fat kid does Burger King. Floyd's good, old southpaw friend Zab Judah received a double right hands.

A southpaw's exclusive disadvantage is that their liver is closer to the orthodox fighter's lead hand. Floyd is relentless with his liver attack towards southpaws.

He threw all kinds of combos towards Zab's liver. Hook downstairs and then hook upstairs. Lead right hand to make an opening for his left hook to the liver.

Look at how he he smothered Corley in the pocket just to land his right shovel hook to the liver.

The blow that stopped Mitchell was the rare right hand to the liver.


Myth #3 manny pac AND freddie roach are able to come up with all these different game plans for manny to make adjustments and adapt

manny pac has shown some great improvements compared to his old style. In the Cotto fight you could see him lay traps with success, but his style is still very bestial.

He will just let his hands go once he gets into a groove. Against Clottey he could have lost the majority of the rounds and still walk away with a W, but he never bothered to try anything new on the very one-dimensional Ghanaian. He had 11 rounds to study Clottey, but as we all saw he ended up taking 3 left uppercuts IN A ROW in the very last round. Clottey was as basic as it gets, and manny didn't have answer for why Clottey was able to land the same punches from start to finish.

On the other hand, Floyd ALWAYS has his eyes glued to his opponents, so he can observe them to take away their weapons. Pay attention to his face and eyes whenever you watch him fight.


Myth #4 The shoulder roll DOESN'T work against southpaws

Yes, it does. Rolling against a southpaw will protect a fighter from the southpaw right hand, and it's real effective in the pocket.

Cotto tried to shoulder roll when his back was against the ropes vs manny, and he had success with it. Had it been Floyd, manny's head would have snapped back from 3-4 right hands.

Manny SQUARES his shoulders in the pocket which takes away his angle advantages of being a southpaw. All Floyd has to do is place his feet properly to land the overhand right to manny's left temple followed by a left hook.


Myth #5 Floyd won't fight at closer ranges against manny, choosing to utilize his size and reach advantage instead

Judah and Corley were both smaller and shorter, but Floyd still went in the pocket at times to smother them. Floyd is so good at it that their punches end up going AROUND him instead of THROUGH.


Myth #6 manny is the best finisher out there right now

This one is self explanatory.


Anyways, manny is way too open to straight punches along with the left uppercut. Floyd has the best right hands in boxing, and his jab is one of the best in the business currently. Floyd likes to feint with a lead hand upper to block his opponents view and conceal the right hand coming directly behind it.

Floyd stops him in the very last round.

Myth #7 Floyd is not scared of Pac and will fight him without any conditions

Myth #8 Floyd has never injected anything in his hands - Ellerbe

Myth #9 Floyd is not gay - anonymous BS poster