Your gut feeling Manny - Floyd

[Pacquiao'd]

No *****s live in fantasy land. Like believing floyd beat a prime mosley and marquez. Floyd aint koing pac. Pac has a better chance of koing floyd than vice versa. Lets be real here we are talking about floyd.

prime mosley ducked floyd after floyd called him, twice. then when he finally stepped to the plate, he got his ass beat-down.

floyd walks through pacs resume. and if floyd would have fought JMM back in his 135 or 140 days, nacho would have saved JMM from brutal punishment. fight would have ended by way of TKO

[thatnickuh]

floyd has never faced an opponent that combines all these attributes. Why do you think he is an all time great.

I'm not convinced that Pacquiao is as great as people like you think that he is. Besides, you missed my point which is that it's presumptuous to think that Pacquiao has all the tools necessary to beat Mayweather. Mayweather is undefeated with only one close fight in his career. Noone really knows what it takes to beat Mayweather.

[madsweeney]

I'm not convinced that Pacquiao is as great as people like you think that he is. Besides, you missed my point which is that it's presumptuous to think that Pacquiao has all the tools necessary to beat Mayweather. Mayweather is undefeated with only one close fight in his career. Noone really knows what it takes to beat Mayweather.

How many people can you honestly say would beat Pac right now between 135 and 147?

[Pacquiao'd]

floyd has never faced an opponent that combines all these attributes. Why do you think he is an all time great.

guy, please shush.

be happy that pac was given the FOTD award b.c its going silly after he gets whooped on by floyd

why do you think more people know Floyd is going to be pac, what do you think floyd is the betting fav?

[thatnickuh]

How many people can you honestly say would beat Pac right now between 135 and 147?

I don't know. I would love to see him in the ring at 40 with Bradley or Alexander. I think th at he's a clear underdog against Mayweather.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I'm not convinced that Pacquiao is as great as people like you think that he is. Besides, you missed my point which is that it's presumptuous to think that Pacquiao has all the tools necessary to beat Mayweather. Mayweather is undefeated with only one close fight in his career. Noone really knows what it takes to beat Mayweather.

Pac is a great fighter you have to give it too him.I won't lie I could see Devon and Bradley giving Pac a real hard time.But that does not change the fact that Pac is a great fighter.Im not saying this to compare May and Pac cause they are both great fighters IMHO.

[thatnickuh]

Pac is a great fighter you have to give it too him.I won't lie I could see Devon and Bradley giving Pac a real hard time.But that does not change the fact that Pac is a great fighter.Im not saying this to compare May and Pac cause they are both great fighters IMHO.

All I've said is that I don't know that Pacquiao is as great as his diehard fans here think. I'm not trying to take any undeserved credit away from him, but I do think that he has been somewhat overrated on the strength of his last few fights.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I don't know. I would love to see him in the ring at 40 with Bradley or Alexander. I think th at he's a clear underdog against Mayweather.

I think he is a underdog as well but not by much.Manny brings speed toughness and a great trainer.Floyd is also tough and fast.But the thing I notice about Floyd is he needs time to think if he is swarmed he does not fight as good.When he is swarmed he tends to find something to slow you down so he could pick his spots better.This fight will come down to what Manny is willing to risk in this fight.If he takes smart risk he is really in this fight.If he trys to think to much and box Floyd he is done AKA Mosley.

[GrandpaBernard]

It'll be an EASY victory for Floyd.

Myth #1 manny pac will keep throwing 200 punches per round even when he's getting countered because of all his heart and determination

Marquez was able to cut down manny pac's punch output down to only 51 by throwing a Mayweatherish volume of punches. About 43 per round. That's only 3 more than what Floyd averaged in his two most recent fights, 40.

Floyd counters much better than Marquez. Marquez was able to give manny hell even though he's not the most physically gifted fighter out there, but Floyd is possibly the most athletic boxer right now.

Manny drops his hands after being hit, and that's enough time for Floyd to reposition himself into a better position.


Myth #2 manny pac has all the advantages stance wise due to being a southpaw

Being a southpaw makes you more vulnerable to the orthodox cross, Floyd's best punch. Manny has always been a sucker for the straight right hand. Even with all his improvements, he's still eating them like a fat kid does Burger King. Floyd's good, old southpaw friend Zab Judah received a double right hand, something you don't see much of in the pros.

A southpaw's exclusive disadvantage is that their liver is closer to the orthodox fighter's lead hand. Floyd is relentless with his liver attack towards southpaws.

He threw all kinds of combos towards Zab's liver. Hook downstairs and then hook upstairs. Lead right hand to make an opening for his left hook to the liver.

Look at how he he smothered Corley in the pocket just to land his right shovel hook to the liver.

The blow that stopped Mitchell was the rare right hand to the liver.


Myth #3 manny pac AND freddie roach are able to come up with all these different game plans for manny to make adjustments and adapt

manny pac has shown some great improvements compared to his old style. In the Cotto fight you could see him lay traps with success, but his style is still very bestial.

He will just let his hands go once he gets into a groove. Against Clottey he could have lost the majority of the rounds and still walk away with a W, but he never bothered to try anything new on the very one-dimensional Ghanaian. He had 11 rounds to study Clottey, but as we all saw he ended up taking 3 left uppercuts IN A ROW in the very last round. Clottey was as basic as it gets, and manny didn't have answer for why Clottey was able to land the same punches from start to finish.

On the other hand, Floyd ALWAYS has his eyes glued to his opponents, so he can observe them to take away their weapons. Pay attention to his face and eyes whenever you watch him fight.


Myth #4 The shoulder roll DOESN'T work against southpaws

Yes, it does. Rolling against a southpaw will protect a fighter from the southpaw right hand, and it's real effective in the pocket.

Cotto tried to shoulder roll when his back was against the ropes vs manny, and he had success with it. Had it been Floyd, manny's head would have snapped back from 3-4 right hands.

Manny SQUARES his shoulders in the pocket which takes away his angle advantages of being a southpaw. All Floyd has to do is place his feet properly to land the overhand right to manny's left temple followed by a left hook.


Myth #5 Floyd won't fight at closer ranges against manny, choosing to utilize his size and reach advantage instead

Judah and Corley were both smaller and shorter, but Floyd still went in the pocket at times to smother them. Floyd is so good at it that their punches end up going AROUND him instead of THROUGH.


Myth #6 manny is the best finisher out there right now

This one is self explanatory.


Anyways, manny is way too open to straight punches along with the left uppercut. Floyd has the best right hands in boxing, and his jab is one of the best in the business currently. Floyd likes to feint with a lead hand upper to block his opponents view and conceal the right hand coming directly behind it.

Floyd stops him in the very last round.

[MindBat]

****m was threatening to stop the fight because Shane wasn't fighting back (not letting his hands go), not because he was getting beaten up to the point where the corner has to step in for the safety of their fighter.

That's usually how it ends up. Freddie and Manny have the toughest time putting together THE blueprint to beating Floyd. Shane capitalized on that split second window of opportunity in the second round and almost succeeded. That's what Manny will be hoping to exploit.

It'll be interesting to watch.