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  • Kevin Malone
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    #101
    Floyd 117-111 UD.

    I just don't see it going the other way.

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    • Kevin Malone
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      #102
      Originally posted by Flomo Tard
      My gut tells me Pac beats Floyd for this reason:

      "They all have a strategy until they get hit." - Mike Tyson
      Pac will definitely be busier than Mosley but he won't rock Floyd like Mosley did...

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      • B.U.R.N.E.R
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        #103
        Originally posted by fcastro1
        not if that highly skilled fighter throws 10 punches a round.
        Over exaggeration much?

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        • fcastro1
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          #104
          how am i a fanboy when bernistein sees the fight going the way i do and what strengths pac has with his speed fast pace and combinations.

          http://www.maxboxing.com/news/main-l...e-biz-part-one

          http://www.maxboxing.com/news/promo-...uture-part-two

          Here's some excerpts:

          Ryan Maquinana: Mayweather is the toughest match-up in the sport. Defensively, he’s almost perfect but he likes to fight in spurts. Do you think Pacquiao can apply sustained, accurate pressure for 12 rounds, enough anyway to restrict Floyd from establishing his offense? Personally, I think that if Manny can edge out the first four rounds on the cards, it will affect the whole complexion of the fight in his favor. If not, then Floyd will clearly win the decision. How would you see that fight playing out?

          Al Bernstein: I think the key to that fight is going to be in the first five rounds. Pacquiao is a different fighter now. He’ll attack you but he’ll do it with movement from side to side and with more combinations. I’ve never seen a fighter re-invent himself the way Manny Pacquiao did and he’s got huge hand speed.

          But somewhere in those first five rounds, Mayweather is going to land a right hand of significance. How Manny Pacquiao deals with that is going to give us a clue to how the fight’s going to go. If he’s hurt or knocked down or knocked out, obviously, then we have our answer. But if he isn’t and, up through those middle rounds and beyond, sustains his pace and makes Floyd Mayweather fight three minutes of every round, then I think you’d have to start looking at Pacquiao as the potential winner of that fight. Mayweather is a little bit bigger than Manny, in general, so I think Floyd will land something early. Even if Manny doesn’t get hurt and wins only one of the first five rounds, you’d have to assume he’d maybe be able to come out in those mid-to-later rounds.

          RM: In 2002, THE RING released a list that proclaimed the 80 greatest fighters of the last 80 years. To name a few of the little guys, Henry Armstrong was at number two; Duran was at five; Willie Pep was one spot behind him and Pernell Whitaker rounded out the top ten. Based on each fighter’s body of work, where do Pacquiao and Mayweather currently stand in comparison with them?

          AB: Interesting. The Pernell Whitaker [pick] doesn’t shock me. Now this will probably be a terrible heresy to say. Willie Pep was a great guy; I met him and I think he’s a terrific fighter but I think he’s overvalued by a lot of people. He lost all the time to Sandy Saddler, who controlled their series. I’m not sure why people continue to believe that Pep was the greater fighter. No question he was great but having him number six all-time, I just don’t get that.

          Now Manny and Floyd. I’m not saying that Floyd has fought a total group of cupcakes. He hasn’t. And in some cases, other things have conspired for Mayweather to have the schedule that he’s had. He’s fought some very good fighters. But Manny Pacquiao has one thing going for him that Floyd doesn’t. He fought three other Hall of Famers in an era when those four—he, [Erik] Morales, [Marco Antonio] Barrera and [Juan Manuel] Marquez—all could lay claim to the fact that it was probably the best featherweight or super featherweight division thatboxing has ever seen. Unfortunately, Marquez didn’t get in on enough fights in that period but at least he got in to contribute mightily. To me, that era when they were all fighting each other rivals the Hagler-Hearns-[Wilfred] Benitez-Duran era. That’s how good they were. And I think that gives Manny a leg up on being higher on the list than Mayweather. They’d both be in the top 40 for sure. What numbers they’d be, I don’t know, but they’d both be up there.
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          • Gorilla Dogs
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            #105
            now the winner of this voteing thing should get that % of the purse split






            AGREE?

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            • any craic lad?
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              #106
              Originally posted by Gorilla Dogs
              now the winner of this voteing thing should get that % of the purse split






              AGREE?
              If only Manny and Floyd read my threads haha

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              • pasawayako
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                #107
                this will be another dominating win by pac.

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                • Rome-By-Ko
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by thatnickuh
                  No offense, but you didn't really say anything besides the same old same old. "Pacquiao is fast, powerful, and tough..... Mayweather has trouble with pressure... ". I say that Mayweather has dealt with fighters who try to wear him down with pressure(outside of the 1st Castillo fight when he was basically fighting with 1 arm) just fine. I would also say that Pacquiao is not really a pressure/swarming fighter, he's an in/out fighter. The fight will come down to boxing skills. Pacquiao can be willing to take all the risks in the world, but if he doesn't have the boxing skills to land punches consistently at a decent percentage while effectively defending himself, then he's going to lose. It's as simple as that in my mind.
                  No offense taken.But it's all the same old same old.No?May's 40 have tried 40 have failed right?Floyd is smart,Floyd is fast,Floyd is defensive right?Listen I'm not by any means a great Floyd or Manny fan.I like both fighters and what they bring to the match.Manny is on another level and so is Floyd this is why this fight is so great and why everybody including us can't help but talk about it.You are right Pac has an in an out style but he also throws alot of punches and can swarm if he lands one shot.I know what ya thinking he can't hit Floyd because of his great defense(which he does have)and skill.But Manny will be the fastest opponent he has ever faced.The most skillfully aggressive fighter he has ever faced.All I'm saying is if you think Manny is a slacker or not a dangerous opponent then ya bugging.
                  Last edited by Rome-By-Ko; 07-03-2010, 12:51 AM.

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                  • Gorilla Dogs
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by pasawayako
                    this will be another dominating win by pac.
                    ugh yea .....









                    back to reality LMFAO

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                    • MindBat
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by romebyko
                      No offense taken.But it's all the same old same old.No?May's 40 have tried 40 have failed right?Floyd is smart,Floyd is fast,Floyd is defensive right?Listen I'm not by any means a great Floyd or Manny fan.I like both fighters and what they bring to the match.Manny is on another level and so is Floyd this is why this fight is so great and why everybody including us can't help but talk about it.You are right Pac has an in an out style but he also throws alot of punches and can swarm if he lands one shot.I know what ya thinking he can't hit Floyd because of his great defense(which he does have)and skill.But Manny will be the fastest opponent he has ever faced.The most skillfully aggressive fighter he has ever faced.All I'm saying is if you think Manny is a slacker or not a dangerous opponent then ya bugging.
                      Manny's plan will likely be to attack hard and fast early to try and keep Floyd on his heels and off balance. He might even back Floyd to the ropes and open up with combos. The question is can he hurt Floyd and can he sustain the attack without puffing himself out?

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