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I wasn’t trying to justify it. I’m simply stating that you could see it coming a mile away.
Not from where I'm sitting bro.
I understand the instincts that fighters develop over time, and I try to look a little deeper into why certain things occur.
I mean you could be right, you can read too much into things, and it is sometimes easy to over-analyse certain situations..... but it was truly bizarre to watch Clottey ignoring his two most basic instincts in that fight..... when all evidence indicated that he was having success with both.
I don’t recall anyone saying that in this thread either. I’m simply sharing my thoughts. As soon as the fight was signed I declared that Clottey was going to lose in one-sided fashion.
Most said that.....
but I did not hear anybody say that Clottey would easily be able to hit Manny, and that he would back him up everytime when he did connect.
Clottey was well aware of the situation inside that ring bro, he knew what was working for him..... and I do not believe that you are unaware of that fact
No, my friend. You totally misread what I said. When I say 1-4, I don’t mean his record against Manny in five fights, I’m talking about the reasons you listed (#s 1-4) in your previous post
. I think this totally changes your argument, eh?
Aaaah ok, yes I did mis-read your comment..... let me go back and look at those points again.
OK, your point was that Clottey had similar success against other fighters that he LOST to, so we should not be too surprised with what happened when he fought Manny?
I think that is the angle that you were coming from? Correct me if I'm wrong there, but if not, then you have a valid point. And also, I will add that Clottey has never had a high workrate anyways.
But that is kinda like triangle-theories bro. You cannot compare the way that Josh matched up physically against Margo, etc. Come on Manny is a little guy, I mean Clottey had weight rehydration restrictions in his contract ffs..... you have to look at each fight individually to be fair. Each opponent is totally different.
CLOTTEY KNOWS THIS..... and he knew what was working for him in that fight. One of the first problems facing any boxer/puncher is to work out if your opponent can hurt you..... listen to Frankie Gomez comments about his latest fight..... CLottey knew bro, plain as day.
Well, my friend, I think you’re wrong. Period. Oh and BTW, Clottey dropped his trainer well before going into the biggest fight of his career. He dropped him after he fought Cotto. He had been stiffing him (financially) and could no longer handle his trainer’s candid advice. Clottey is simply not a serious fighter.
I was thinking about what I’ve seen Clottey do when the going gets tough – headbutts, low blows, phantom injuries, etc.
Yup, I was quoting you, when you said this..... "On top of being the inferior fighter, Clottey changed trainers for no good reason, was lax in training and the camp was a sideshow"
Well **** me..... I was waiting for anything..... when it was plainly obvious to me that Clottey could easily hit/hurt Manny..... I waited..... and I'm still waiting. ANYTHING would have been fine bro..... but it just didn't happen
WHY ?
Dude, I don’t see a conspiracy here. Clottey is Clottey. He quits when he’s winning so what was he going to do when he had no chance? LOL.
Well, I agree that he is a mental midget, and I do appreciate your humour
But you are glossing over an inaccurate assumption.....
From what I saw..... Clottey did have a chance..... and I know that Clottey realised this, and I also know that he ignored it, for some reason.
Not from where I'm sitting bro.
I understand the instincts that fighters develop over time, and I try to look a little deeper into why certain things occur.
I mean you could be right, you can read too much into things, and it is sometimes easy to over-analyse certain situations..... but it was truly bizarre to watch Clottey ignoring his two most basic instincts in that fight..... when all evidence indicated that he was having success with both.
I don’t recall anyone saying that in this thread either. I’m simply sharing my thoughts. As soon as the fight was signed I declared that Clottey was going to lose in one-sided fashion.
Most said that.....
but I did not hear anybody say that Clottey would easily be able to hit Manny, and that he would back him up everytime when he did connect.
Clottey was well aware of the situation inside that ring bro, he knew what was working for him..... and I do not believe that you are unaware of that fact
No, my friend. You totally misread what I said. When I say 1-4, I don’t mean his record against Manny in five fights, I’m talking about the reasons you listed (#s 1-4) in your previous post
. I think this totally changes your argument, eh? Aaaah ok, yes I did mis-read your comment..... let me go back and look at those points again.
OK, your point was that Clottey had similar success against other fighters that he LOST to, so we should not be too surprised with what happened when he fought Manny?
I think that is the angle that you were coming from? Correct me if I'm wrong there, but if not, then you have a valid point. And also, I will add that Clottey has never had a high workrate anyways.
But that is kinda like triangle-theories bro. You cannot compare the way that Josh matched up physically against Margo, etc. Come on Manny is a little guy, I mean Clottey had weight rehydration restrictions in his contract ffs..... you have to look at each fight individually to be fair. Each opponent is totally different.
CLOTTEY KNOWS THIS..... and he knew what was working for him in that fight. One of the first problems facing any boxer/puncher is to work out if your opponent can hurt you..... listen to Frankie Gomez comments about his latest fight..... CLottey knew bro, plain as day.
Well, my friend, I think you’re wrong. Period. Oh and BTW, Clottey dropped his trainer well before going into the biggest fight of his career. He dropped him after he fought Cotto. He had been stiffing him (financially) and could no longer handle his trainer’s candid advice. Clottey is simply not a serious fighter.
I was thinking about what I’ve seen Clottey do when the going gets tough – headbutts, low blows, phantom injuries, etc.
Yup, I was quoting you, when you said this..... "On top of being the inferior fighter, Clottey changed trainers for no good reason, was lax in training and the camp was a sideshow"
Well **** me..... I was waiting for anything..... when it was plainly obvious to me that Clottey could easily hit/hurt Manny..... I waited..... and I'm still waiting. ANYTHING would have been fine bro..... but it just didn't happen
WHY ?
Dude, I don’t see a conspiracy here. Clottey is Clottey. He quits when he’s winning so what was he going to do when he had no chance? LOL.
Well, I agree that he is a mental midget, and I do appreciate your humour
But you are glossing over an inaccurate assumption.....
From what I saw..... Clottey did have a chance..... and I know that Clottey realised this, and I also know that he ignored it, for some reason.
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